Dental Implants

applesock

Hi

I have to get four of my bottom teeth removed & will be getting dental implants. I decided to straighten my teeth also, so before getting implants have to get teeth straight, my bottom teeth are not to bad, Ortho said that once he has them in a position he's happy with can start the implant treatment, I'm terrified of this procedure I'm having nightmares and panic attacks.

Can anyone advice if it would be easy to go under or stay awake through the procedure, all crowns on bottom teeth now broke due to movement. Will the retainer I'm given during the recovery time be a removal or permanent one? Can you sleep with it in? Im in a new relationship & would rather not share that current state of my teeth with them.

Any advice on procedure would be much appreciated

thanks

Nickindublin

applesock wrote: »

Hi

I have to get four of my bottom teeth removed & will be getting dental implants. I decided to straighten my teeth also, so before getting implants have to get teeth straight, my bottom teeth are not to bad, Ortho said that once he has them in a position he's happy with can start the implant treatment, I'm terrified of this procedure I'm having nightmares and panic attacks.

Can anyone advice if it would be easy to go under or stay awake through the procedure, all crowns on bottom teeth now broke due to movement. Will the retainer I'm given during the recovery time be a removal or permanent one? Can you sleep with it in? Im in a new relationship & would rather not share that current state of my teeth with them.

Any advice on procedure would be much appreciated

thanks

I have been getting advice on implants from a few different dentists. I would need between 3 and 5 implants depending on what I wanted. All have told me it would be intravenous sedation.

brandnewaward

hey lads , i got 6 uppers done , 3 screws. its a doddle , no pain , weird drilling noise in ur head , but thats it. didnt even take a painkiller after , no kidding. id nearly get the rest done down the line if they werent so ****ing expensive

robbieY

Hi guys. Just like to back up what brandnewaward is saying here. Implants are a doddle. Had a bunch of them placed a while back and there really is nothing to worry about. I was a really nervous patient going in and totally cured of my irrational fear of the dentist when I left.

applesock

Hi

Thanks for the replies. While you were waiting for the final tooth, did you have a retainer? with fake teeth on it? did you have to take it out when you were sleeping? the thoughts of the retainer really freaking me out.

any advice much appreciate i know i should/could ask my dentist this but every time i there i freak out , and im still at the braces stage, he said once he has bottom teeth in position can start work, even if top braces are still on.

I just want to be prepared for all of this and not be as upset about the thoughts of this treatment. How was your speech afterwards? did you have much bruising?

thanks again

Rackstar

I had one implant done 10 years ago now. Couldn't afford to get sedated at the time. It wasn't a nice experience at all, having your gum cut away and then the screw drilled into the bone. Makes me shudder thinking about it now. I'd go sedation if i had to get another done.

robbieY

Rackstar, sorry to hear that you had a bad experience but I think implant dentistry must have come on quite a bit since you had your one place ten years ago. For me it was totally painless and even though I was extremely nervous I ended up not having or needing I.V. sedation. One sedative pill and a barely noticeable anesthetic injection. After that the whole procedure was over before I knew it.

Nickindublin

I have decided to go abroad. For what I need done the costs here are too much. I am getting straumann implants for 1100 euro per implant including crown and 100 for any grafting required. Prices here in excess of 2000...

helimachoptor

Nickindublin wrote: »

I have decided to go abroad. For what I need done the costs here are too much. I am getting straumann implants for 1100 euro per implant including crown and 100 for any grafting required. Prices here in excess of 2000...

This is your choice, i think you will regret it though.

Sigourney

Nickindublin wrote: »

I have decided to go abroad. For what I need done the costs here are too much. I am getting straumann implants for 1100 euro per implant including crown and 100 for any grafting required. Prices here in excess of 2000...

I had a Straumann SLActive 4mm implant done abroad for €1000. No discomfort during or after the procedure. The implant screw looks great on an x-ray.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Sigourney wrote: »

I had a Straumann SLActive 4mm implant done abroad for €1000. No discomfort during or after the procedure. The implant screw looks great on an x-ray.

What does the tooth look like in your mouth? The brand of implant means nothing and is no guarantee of success. A poorly placed Straumann is as bad as any implant. I have seen failures of almost every implant system and success with every implant system. The only thing that matters is your healing, the surgeons skill, the correct pre surgical mouth preparation and cleaning and the correct treatment planning. Much better off worrying about where the crown comes from and what its made of.

davo10

Sigourney wrote: »

I had a Straumann SLActive 4mm implant done abroad for €1000. No discomfort during or after the procedure. The implant screw looks great on an x-ray.

I doubt it's a Straumann, we use this system, a genuine Straumann implant, healing cap, impression post, analogue and titanium abutment, all necessary for genuine Straumann implants would cost the surgeon over €1000 for the components alone never mind the surgical costs and crown.

Straumann are like apple, all components come from a central supply centre in Switzerland and are sold in each country by an authorised Straumann supplier. They charge the same no matter where they are bought, only currency exchange rates differ ie sterling/dollar etc. Their euro price is the same everywhere in the Eurozone. Either you are mistaken or the place you had it done did not place a genuine Straumann implant, maybe a generic like Swissplant which is a copy of a Straumann but not nearly as strongt. I will ask an official from Straumann to post here and confirm this fact if you wish.

We have to buy them from Straumann UK in Crawley.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

davo10 wrote: »

I doubt it's a Straumann, we use this system, a genuine Straumann implant, healing cap, impression post, analogue and titanium abutment, all necessary for genuine Straumann implants would cost the surgeon over €1000 for the components alone never mind the surgical costs and crown.

Straumann are like apple, all components come from a central supply centre in Switzerland and are sold in each country by an authorised Straumann supplier. They charge the same no matter where they are bought, only currency exchange rates differ ie sterling/dollar etc. Their euro price is the same everywhere in the Eurozone. Either you are mistaken or the place you had it done did not place a genuine Straumann implant. I will ask an official from Straumann to post here and confirm this fact if you wish.

We have to buy them from Straumann UK in Crawley.

Yep, and even the smallest packet of allograft costs nearly 100 euro. A decent crown, abutment and screw costs at least 400 euro also.

davo10

Sylas Flabby Lineman wrote: »

Yep, and even the smallest packet of allograft costs nearly 100 euro. A decent crown, abutment and screw costs at least 400 euro also.

More than that Fitz, Straumann bone ceramic for augmentation is over €200 a packet and a decent lab will not cast a crown on a Straumann abutment for 400, anywhere.

robbieY

Where were the dentists when applesock was looking for some advice and reassurance? Someone mentions going abroad for treatment and they all pile in to slag off foreign dentists. Yawn...

Dianthus

robbieY wrote: »

Where were the dentists when applesock was looking for some advice and reassurance? Someone mentions going abroad for treatment and they all pile in to slag off foreign dentists. Yawn...

To be fair, if someone is having nightmares & panic attacks, it's outside of a dentists' remit!
Also, the OP sounded like he wanted to hear from people/patients who had actually undergone the procedure, as it was clear that his own dentist wasn't reassuring him.
It's often easy to be blasé when you're on the other side of the chair; dentists can focus more on technicalities, patients more on emotions.

davo10

robbieY wrote: »

Where were the dentists when applesock was looking for some advice and reassurance? Someone mentions going abroad for treatment and they all pile in to slag off foreign dentists. Yawn...

We can't give advice on a particular treatment plan not having knowledge of the persons teeth nor problem, what we can advise is the pitfalls of complex cheap dentistry in general. If someone posted they got a Straumann implant in cork for €1000 I would post the same reply.

Nickindublin

davo10 wrote: »

I doubt it's a Straumann, we use this system, a genuine Straumann implant, healing cap, impression post, analogue and titanium abutment, all necessary for genuine Straumann implants would cost the surgeon over €1000 for the components alone never mind the surgical costs and crown.

Straumann are like apple, all components come from a central supply centre in Switzerland and are sold in each country by an authorised Straumann supplier. They charge the same no matter where they are bought, only currency exchange rates differ ie sterling/dollar etc. Their euro price is the same everywhere in the Eurozone. Either you are mistaken or the place you had it done did not place a genuine Straumann implant, maybe a generic like Swissplant which is a copy of a Straumann but not nearly as strongt. I will ask an official from Straumann to post here and confirm this fact if you wish.

We have to buy them from Straumann UK in Crawley.

I work for a pharmaceutical company which is very similar. Every country/region has different prices. We can't charge the same in eastern European countries as we charge in western European countries.

davo10

Nickindublin wrote: »

I work for a pharmaceutical company which is very similar. Every country/region has different prices. We can't charge the same in eastern European countries as we charge in western European countries.

Nick your company may charge local suppliers less for your product in Eastern Europe than Western due to economic differences. Straumann on the other hand, charge the same for the supply of their implants from Basel in Switzerland to every market in the World. So a component which costs €500 here costs €500 to buy from them in Hungary, Poland etc

This is why I am sceptical about the €1000 post, if it cost that amount including the crown, either the poster is mistaken, the clinic claimed to have placed a Straumann but instead placed a Straumann type generic like Swissplant or the clinic is so kind hearted that he/she placed and restored the implant for less than it cost to buy all the necessary components.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

That's true nick I am afraid, straumann have a worldwide pricing policy, if not sure all us dentists would fly to Poland for 59 euro and stock up on cheap implants. I would be more worried about the fact they are plicating you with brand names than actually thinking about planning, surgical guides, periodontal maintenance, post operative care and restorative quality. At the end of the day it's your decision, but don't be under any illusion that you can make an informed decision, the knowledge asymmetry is too great, the patient who researches things is easier to bamboozle cause you know what they want to hear. I hope it works out well for you, maybe come back in 9 months when it's complete and tell us how it went.

Nickindublin

Sylas Flabby Lineman wrote: »

That's true nick I am afraid, straumann have a worldwide pricing policy, if not sure all us dentists would fly to Poland for 59 euro and stock up on cheap implants. I would be more worried about the fact they are plicating you with brand names than actually thinking about planning, surgical guides, periodontal maintenance, post operative care and restorative quality. At the end of the day it's your decision, but don't be under any illusion that you can make an informed decision, the knowledge asymmetry is too great, the patient who researches things is easier to bamboozle cause you know what they want to hear. I hope it works out well for you, maybe come back in 9 months when it's complete and tell us how it went.

No decision made yet Fitzg. I'm still researching. Everytime I go to a different dentist i get a new view. So its good to get all these different opinions. Some say I should get implants and bridgework. Some say just implants. Pros and cons to these are money saved now with some bridge work but long term implants are better. Some say I need gum treatment others say my gums are okay and a good clean will do. But I am going to make a decision in next week or so hopefully.

Roger_007

applesock wrote: »

Hi

I have to get four of my bottom teeth removed & will be getting dental implants. I decided to straighten my teeth also, so before getting implants have to get teeth straight, my bottom teeth are not to bad, Ortho said that once he has them in a position he's happy with can start the implant treatment, I'm terrified of this procedure I'm having nightmares and panic attacks.

Can anyone advice if it would be easy to go under or stay awake through the procedure, all crowns on bottom teeth now broke due to movement. Will the retainer I'm given during the recovery time be a removal or permanent one? Can you sleep with it in? Im in a new relationship & would rather not share that current state of my teeth with them.

Any advice on procedure would be much appreciated

thanks

Hi
Three years Ago I had all bottom teeth removed and replaced by one bridge attached to a row of implanted screws. If the teeth being removed are side by side this would probably be the method used - a mini bridge. It's all done under local anaesthetic tho the drilling for the screws is weird sensation but not painful.

thomur

applesock wrote: »

Hi

I have to get four of my bottom teeth removed & will be getting dental implants. I decided to straighten my teeth also, so before getting implants have to get teeth straight, my bottom teeth are not to bad, Ortho said that once he has them in a position he's happy with can start the implant treatment, I'm terrified of this procedure I'm having nightmares and panic attacks.

Can anyone advice if it would be easy to go under or stay awake through the procedure, all crowns on bottom teeth now broke due to movement. Will the retainer I'm given during the recovery time be a removal or permanent one? Can you sleep with it in? Im in a new relationship & would rather not share that current state of my teeth with them.

Any advice on procedure would be much appreciated

thanks

Mate, I had top 3 teeth on right side removed in Nov. There is no pain, as a previous poster said just a drilling sensation(For the screws). The retainer is temporary(3 months approx). Make sure you check it in a mirror before you leave. I didnt, and ended up looking like Bugs Bunny for 2 weeks before I went back and got it shortened. You dont sleep with the retainer on, Id be worried Id swallow it or something. Stay awake for it, just think of how good it will look when you get the implants

applesock

hi thanks for all the replies

Thomur, thats what i needed to know most worried about the retainer part of it at the moment. I was hoping there would be some form of fixed retainer while i wait for the final teeth.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

A fixed temporary is usually possible, depends on the case. I rarely use dentures during healing, dont like em and patient dont like em, expensive yolks to have made too.

applesock

Hi Fitzgeme
thanks for the reply, i was advised by the dentist doing the implants that a retainer with false teeth would be made for cosmetic reasons , i was just wondering if there are different types of retainers,im hoping to get one i can keep in at night time while waiting for the final teeth.
thanks