How to split a car pool

zuroph

So, three of us at work want to start a car pool due to big enough distance to cover each day.
Round trip is 160km

A+B are on same shift pattern
I'm C.

I'm only on some days of the month on same pattern so will be driving myself on other days

Since im on irregularly with them for the carpool, what we're thinking is they rotate and drive every second week, and I jump in for lift when I'm on that pattern and throw money forward to the driver. But whats a fair amount?
round trip estimated at €18 in fuel for driver, but with wear and tear estimates etc?

My car is a bit more of a guzzler, costing about €25 a round trip. I could alternatively drive a number of days when I'm matched up.

What's the fairest way to divide, and whats a fair price to hand up?

I was looking around for cost per KM, seeing stuff around 60-75 cent per KM. Over 160km, that's €120 a round trip!! so, €40 a round trip as one third of the lift doesnt seem to be saving me anything!

mullingar

€8-10 per passenger per day, no matter the car. Fairest way IMO and will cover fuel plus a little towards wear/tear/depreciation

ahnowbrowncow

zuroph wrote: »

I was looking around for cost per KM, seeing stuff around 60-75 cent per KM. Over 160km, that's €120 a round trip!! so, €40 a round trip as one third of the lift doesnt seem to be saving me anything!

That can't be right? One litre every two kilometers?

zuroph

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

That can't be right? One litre every two kilometers?

it was factoring in every cost, like tax, insurance, depreciation.
more realistic estimate at 23 cent per km. that would include tyres, oil, petrol, oil, and repairs

im looking at perhaps €13 a day?

hsilgnede

I've been in a car pool for two years. We split the driving but when we have a random fourth person in the car which we do sometimes if some else's car is in the garage or whatever, they were charged a tenner for the week. That was for pickup and drop off at the side of the road wherever along the route. Charge more if you're going out of your way at all. That's for about a 50k round trip so I suppose double it in your case.

Another way to do it is figure out what the bust fare would cost and then add a bit cause cars are more convenient and comfy than buses.

AltAccount

zuroph wrote: »

it was factoring in every cost, like tax, insurance, depreciation.
more realistic estimate at 23 cent per km. that would include tyres, oil, petrol, oil, and repairs

im looking at perhaps €13 a day?

Tax and insurance are fixed, and they'd be doing the same trip whether you were in the car or not. I'd pay a 'generous' petrol rate and ignore the rest tbh

bobin fudge

if it is just short term for a few weeks , month or two I would only charge their share of the petrol/diesel. I would Never dream of factoring in the insurance, wear and tear etc , perhaps that is just me

zuroph

settling at €10 for round trip, think everyone can be happy with that. if schedules change and we're all on same route, we'll look at splitting the drives again

bijapos

On the presumption that each of you have a car and will be driving each other to work at some point:

When I car pooled the rule was that you paid for your own petrol, wear and tear etc. If you start to work out various MPG's, costs etc. it'll only give rise to arguments.

OP: work out how many days a week or month that ye are all on the same shift, divide this by 3, then each of you drives that many days. Outside of this you will drive on your own and your two mates can share ther own driving as they please, probably 50:50.

If you do decide that your two mates will do all the driving when you are with them, then split the petrol costs and add 10-20% for other costs as a kind of thanks.

Don't try to add on depreciation, tax, insurance etc as the driver has the use of the car outside of work hours.

goz83

Plus, tax, insurance and wear/tear would happen anyway. I would say just agree a daily fee toward fuel and work out who pays the difference at the end.

rebel.ranter

goz83 wrote: »

Plus, tax, insurance and wear/tear would happen anyway. I would say just agree a daily fee toward fuel and work out who pays the difference at the end.

Surely the fact that he passenger is saving on the cost of wear & tear on their own car would mean that they should be contributing to the cost of these costs being incurred by the driver? Let the convenience of not having to drive be the reward for the passenger.

keithclancy

rebel.ranter wrote: »

Surely the fact that he passenger is saving on the cost of wear & tear on their own car would mean that they should be contributing to the cost of these costs being incurred by the driver? Let the convenience of not having to drive be the reward for the passenger.

Exactly, the "Ah sure your going that way anyway" attitude is a bit annoying to be honest.

goz83

Not if each driver is using their own car equally as much as they share the other car. My attitude wasn't "sure you're going that way anyway"...but why the hell would tax and insurance come into consideration? If one of the drivers insurance is 2k per year and mine is only 200 per year, why would I be contributing to that persons insurance? That's just stupid. I would contribute to fuel and I would contribute to other expenses "IF" I wasn't putting my own car into the car pool.

I also don't really agree that if I am driving a fuel guzzler and the other f=person is driving an economical car, that they should pay over the odds for my choice of vehicle.

MrDerp

I wouldn't share a packet of biscuits with someone who calculated tires and depreciation into giving me a lift to work. I would only take and receive petrol money.

If I was receiving a lift, I'd round it up to the nearest tenner at the end of the week.
If I was giving a lift, I'd round it down to the nearest tenner at the end of the week.

See, I'd be glad of the contribution towards my petrol, and be happy with that. Everyone is saving in a car pool situation; if I give a lift I'm saving money myself; if I take a lift I'm saving the driver money.