Marlay Park to Enniskerry

PaulieC

I believe it is possible to do this run completely on trail, apart from the Kilmashogue lane bit at the start and having to cross a couple of roads, but does anyone have a route ?
I assume that it follows the wicklow way down to Glencullen, but does it continure on the WW up past Prince William's Seat or does it go up Glencullen mountain earlier ?
And after PWS,what is the route into Knocksink woods ? I drove down that way this morning, but I couldn't see anything very obvious.

If anyone has a Garmin course for this route, I would very much like to see it

Thanks
PC

Krusty_Clown

I have the route for the Knocksink Woods section if that's of any use? The entrance into Knocksink Woods isn't very obvious. Not sure how you'd get from JF's down to that point either, without running on the road.

PaulieC

Looks like an adventure is called for! I wasn't thinking of going near JFs, more along the lines of down either the WW and back up Glencullen mountain and take one of the lower paths along the side of PWS or else down through tibradden and cruagh and across that way. Either way, there should be a way to get from the Fairy Castle without running too long on roads. I'll see if I can make a route later

b.harte

I don't have a garmin link for you:
If you have the time (and the inclination) you can manually plot the route (using available maps as a reference) on google earth, the satelite/aerial coverage is resonable for forrest tracks, maybe not single track.
The resultant KML file can then be uploaded to:
GPS Visualizer
Check the "Add DEM elevation Data" box and the output GPX file can then be manually imported to Garmin and sent to your device.
Its not perfect but it is reasonable, I'm doing it currently for Some of the "Blackwater Way"
A bit time consuming but do-able.
That file is a mash-up of bits I've ran and had gps plots for and the manually added bits I plotted on google earth.

Krusty_Clown

cambo_gueno wrote: »

Looks like an adventure is called for! I wasn't thinking of going near JFs, more along the lines of down either the WW and back up Glencullen mountain and take one of the lower paths along the side of PWS or else down through tibradden and cruagh and across that way. Either way, there should be a way to get from the Fairy Castle without running too long on roads. I'll see if I can make a route later

Perhaps you can get from Prince William's Seat down to this road? There is also a path to the right of the river, but it's not clear if it's private land or a right of way. The OSI maps woud probably clear that up.

PaulieC

b.harte wrote: »

I don't have a garmin link for you:
If you have the time (and the inclination) you can manually plot the route (using available maps as a reference) on google earth, the satelite/aerial coverage is resonable for forrest tracks, maybe not single track.
The resultant KML file can then be uploaded to:
GPS Visualizer
Check the "Add DEM elevation Data" box and the output GPX file can then be manually imported to Garmin and sent to your device.
Its not perfect but it is reasonable, I'm doing it currently for Some of the "Blackwater Way"
A bit time consuming but do-able.
That file is a mash-up of bits I've ran and had gps plots for and the manually added bits I plotted on google earth.

I find it easier to plot the routes in Garmin Connect, as it uses Google maps, which has quite good coverage for north Wicklow. I then save the course to the watch and follow the course roughly when out running. Then save the resulting actual route taken as the course.

Krusty_Clown wrote:

Perhaps you can get from Prince William's Seat down to this road? There is also a path to the right of the river, but it's not clear if it's private land or a right of way. The OSI maps woud probably clear that up.

I'll take a look at some of the maps. I never thought of following the river though, I wonder of it's possible.

jeawan

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

I have the route for the Knocksink Woods section if that's of any use? The entrance into Knocksink Woods isn't very obvious. Not sure how you'd get from JF's down to that point either, without running on the road.

it is Fairly easy to get to the entrance to the knocksink wood via trails from jonney foxes /WW trails i would possible be up for running this i know the area quite well there too . you would have about 300 meters of road to the entrance to Knocksink , mind you no ideas what the trail is like down there as not be down the way in a while .

jeawan

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Perhaps you can get from Prince William's Seat down to this road? There is also a path to the right of the river, but it's not clear if it's private land or a right of way. The OSI maps woud probably clear that up.

That Lane way is Private land

Krusty_Clown

jeawan wrote: »

it is Fairly easy to get to the entrance to the knocksink wood via trails from jonney foxes /WW trails i would possible be up for running this i know the area quite well there too . you would have about 300 meters of road to the entrance to Knocksink , mind you no ideas what the trail is like down there as not be down the way in a while .

Any pointers as to how?

jeawan wrote:

That Lane way is Private land

Which one? Both?

jeawan

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Any pointers as to how?

Which one? Both?

Yes Both are owned by the same person, i will put together a map for you how the whole track can be done .

PaulieC

that would be great Jeawan. I'd be looking at doing the run towards the end of the month, starting either from Marlay or Ticknock, depending on transport and route

jeawan

Ok this is how you can do it you can change the route a bit depending on how you want to run it http://my.viewranger.com/route/details/MTUzMjM=

PaulieC

ah nice one. I was looking at more direct routes, but I couldn't see anything that looked viable.

jeawan

There are more direct routes but you will be running across open ground and it is kinda hard to map . also one river crossing and a barb wire fence ( not done this way in a while though ) so it might be a bit over grown it really depends on how dry you want to stay .

PaulieC

looking out the window at three rock now and wishing I was out there now. It looks like a perfect day for a bit of hill running

nerraw1111

cambo_gueno wrote: »

looking out the window at three rock now and wishing I was out there now. It looks like a perfect day for a bit of hill running

Can see Three Rock from my window too, beautiful day, almost balmy out there.

PaulieC

here's a course from Ticknock to Knocksink, with the missing link provided by Jeawan. 10 miles just about, spoiled only a wee bit by having to run about a mile on road, but I can't see anyway to get around that

http://connect.garmin.com/course/2637615

Krusty_Clown

cambo_gueno wrote: »

here's a course from Ticknock to Knocksink, with the missing link provided by Jeawan. 10 miles just about, spoiled only a wee bit by having to run about a mile on road, but I can't see anyway to get around that

http://connect.garmin.com/course/2637615

A more direct route (but with a little more road) would be to go over Three Rock and join the Dublin Mountain Way, as far as JFs, then down Barrack Road to Knocksink. However, I think your longer route would be preferable.

ThisRegard

cambo_gueno wrote: »

looking out the window at three rock now and wishing I was out there now. It looks like a perfect day for a bit of hill running

nerraw1111 wrote: »

Can see Three Rock from my window too, beautiful day, almost balmy out there.

A tail of two cities, it's pretty dark and gloomy looking out my north side office window.

PaulieC

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

A more direct route (but with a little more road) would be to go over Three Rock and join the Dublin Mountain Way, as far as JFs, then down Barrack Road to Knocksink. However, I think your longer route would be preferable.

It would certainly be easier as it would be pretty much downhill from Three Rock, although it would make for a decent loop...

Antigrav

If you are running this route in the next couple of weeks, just be aware Coillte are thinning in the woods above Ballybrew and the section that cuts down through the woods known by MTBs as 'bag of chips' has brashings and logs across it in places. Still very passable but just don't beat down there in the dark :eek:

The run through Knocksink is reasonably easy to follow as there are white dots marking the trail. In some places there are multiple trails marked but it pretty much follows the S side of the river, except for a couple of deviations. It may be worth a recce from the Enniskerry end first as this direction is better marked.

Nice Route all together though. You could do Tibradden, Cruagh, Glendoo, Knocknagun, PWS to avoid the road at Glencullen but thats WAY longer and loads of bog