Non Practising Catholics and the next census

Ash.J.Williams

Recent events have made it apparent that while filling out the next census form make sure NOT tick the catholic box if you are not a a practising catholic. That means if you do not pray or go to mass DO NOT mark yourself catholic. Many people just tick it because they were baptised and never filled in the form to leave!

summerskin

Ok boss.

Just Like Heaven

Jedi for life.

hoodwinked

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

and never filled in the form to leave!

i thought they changed it so that you can never leave?

Ash.J.Williams

hoodwinked wrote: »

i thought they changed it so that you can never leave?

exactly!!

donvito99

Don't tell me what to do OP.

krudler

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Recent events have made it apparent that while filling out the next census form make sure NOT tick the catholic box if you are not a a practising catholic. That means if you do not pray or go to mass DO NOT mark yourself catholic. Many people just tick it because they were baptised and never filled in the form to leave!

Can't do that anymore I'm afraid, changed canon law so you can't opt out of being a Catholic aside from joining another religion or being excommunicated, truly is a rotten organisation.

strandroad

I suggest they put in a "cultural Catholic" option!

Anyone

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Recent events have made it apparent that while filling out the next census form make sure NOT tick the catholic box if you are not a a practising catholic. That means if you do not pray or go to mass DO NOT mark yourself catholic. Many people just tick it because they were baptised and never filled in the form to leave!

What recent events are you talking about?

Btw, I am one of those people, I am a non practising catholic, and in the next census, I'll tick catholic again, as I have done on every census I have filled out.

Ush1

Tis my money father, I just didn't want to fill out the forms!

Ash.J.Williams

krudler wrote: »

Can't do that anymore I'm afraid, changed canon law so you can't opt out of being a Catholic aside from joining another religion or being excommunicated, truly is a rotten organisation.

The only place it counts is the census...people say "we're a catholic country" and use the census as proof.

hoodwinked

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

The only place it counts is the census...people say "we're a catholic country" and use the census as proof.

but what if you are like me and married to a catholic man, he goes to mass and all!

im ticking the box!

seven_eleven

Everybody was up in arms in AH about it during the last census (last year?) and it still turned out to be a huge catholic majority, I dont think it even dropped much but it would be nice to see a drop during the next census

the culture of deference

Anyone wrote: »

What recent events are you talking about?

Btw, I am one of those people, I am a non practising catholic, and in the next census, I'll tick catholic again, as I have done on every census I have filled out.

Why would you tick catholic?

Bannasidhe

Anyone wrote: »

What recent events are you talking about?

Btw, I am one of those people, I am a non practising catholic, and in the next census, I'll tick catholic again, as I have done on every census I have filled out.

Genuine question - if you are 'non practising' how can you be a Catholic?

That's like me saying I am a violinist when I haven't picked up a fiddle in over 20 years

Ghandee

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

The only place it counts is the census...people say "we're a catholic country" and use the census as proof.

But we are a catholic country

Ash.J.Williams

Anyone wrote: »

What recent events are you talking about?

Btw, I am one of those people, I am a non practising catholic, and in the next census, I'll tick catholic again, as I have done on every census I have filled out.

Sure bob geldof's occupation is still "musician"

Chuck Stone

How about having no option to tick a religion for children under a certain age?

Babies are born free of religious indoctrination after all.

Daith

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Genuine question - if you are 'non practising' how can you be a Catholic?

That's like me saying I am a violinist when I haven't picked up a fiddle in over 20 years

Or I can speak Irish because I can say "Dia something"...

Pawwed Rig

the culture of deference wrote: »

Why would you tick catholic?

Because that's what he has always done:rolleyes:

Grass between the tracks

Of what business is this for the OP?

Anyone

seven_eleven wrote: »

Everybody was up in arms in AH about it during the last census (last year?) and it still turned out to be a huge catholic majority, I dont think it even dropped much but it would be nice to see a drop during the next census

A lot of people on Boards seem to think that Boards users are a fair refelction of irish society, most polls on national votable subjects show that to be very very wrong.

the culture of deference wrote: »

Why would you tick catholic?

Because I'm Catholic.

seamus

They'd be better off abolishing the question altogether because it's meaningless for the statistical purpose that it's intended.

A far more accurate measure would be to require religious institutions to carry out a headcount on a weekly basis and provide the figures to the CSO on a yearly basis. This will give a reasonable figure for the numbers in the various religious organisations and everyone esle then can be slotted into the "no religion" category.

Since the purpose of the data is for providing amenities and directing funding, then the only thing that's relevant is the number of people who attend religious services. What you actually believe or don't believe is irrelevant.

Ash.J.Williams

Grass between the tracks wrote: »

Of what business is this for the OP?

there's no harm in raising awareness about filling in official forms properly.

Ghandee

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Genuine question - if you are 'non practising' how can you be a Catholic?

That's like me saying I am a violinist when I haven't picked up a fiddle in over 20 years

But it's not really.

Being born/baptised into a faith that you'll always remain in unless you're excommunicated from, or choose to opt out of (by converting to a different faith) can hardly be comparable to having learnt how to play a particular instrument?

I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but that's the reality of it.

Ash.J.Williams

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Because that's what he has always done:rolleyes:

and his father before him...and his father......

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seven_eleven wrote: »

it would be nice to see a drop during the next census

Why?

Anyone

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Genuine question - if you are 'non practising' how can you be a Catholic?

That's like me saying I am a violinist when I haven't picked up a fiddle in over 20 years

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Sure bob geldof's occupation is still "musician"

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Because that's what he has always done:rolleyes:

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

and his father before him...and his father......

And the ridicule of someone with different beliefs begins.

Grass between the tracks

I has my certificate of defection here on my wall. That is good enough for me.
The church of Rome knows my position.

Sleepy

Why not? They're both simply choices.

What else is faith but a choice to disregard a lack of evidence and believe something because you want to?

Though, you may have a point, learning a musical instrument is a serious business

Rayne Wooney

krudler wrote: »

Can't do that anymore I'm afraid, changed canon law so you can't opt out of being a Catholic aside from joining another religion or being excommunicated, truly is a rotten organisation.

To opt out text "stop" to 3325-463

seamus

Anyone wrote: »

And the ridicule of someone with different beliefs begins.

I don't see any ridiculing of different beliefs, just a question as to why you would continue to call yourself Catholic, when you admittedly don't practice it?

Ush1

Surely a Catholic is someone that adheres to the teachings of Catholicism, not somebody who ticks a box every few years?

Daith

Anyone wrote: »

And the ridicule of someone with different beliefs begins.

I personally just find it odd that someone would say they are catholic if they don't practice it. Christian yes but not Catholic.

Pawwed Rig

Anyone wrote: »

And the ridicule of someone with different beliefs begins.

Not ridiculing your beliefs but would ridicule a statement that you are a non practicing something but will say on the census form by saying you are something.

I spoke Irish at school does not make me an Irish speaker

HHobo

Grass between the tracks wrote: »

Of what business is this for the OP?

Of what business of yours is it what business of his it is?....

...of what business of mine is it what business of yours is it what business of his it is?.....

danniemcq

I class myself as a christian rather than a catholic, curroption, homophobia, kiddy fiddling, one of the richest organisations in the world yet demand money and sit on golden thrones, condoms are evil etc etc etc

Do i belive in God? yes, do i think the church is what he has in mind for humanity? no and if it is then i guess no heaven for me

telling my ma that made for a fun christmas. On the census though i'm a jedi

Micky Dolenz

After Hours doesn't care.