Potential Cost of this home

joe316

Hi all,

I know that you need details of the exact build but I was wondering would someone be so kind as to give a very high level costing for building the following plan there is a calculator on the site but I would be concerned that it might be out of date. Its to be built in the kildare region.

http://planahome.ie/plans/s28

I know that its only a plan and we are hoping to modify it a bit (extend the kitchen and possibly making the master en suite bigger) but looking for a ballpark figure. editBefore anyone says, we will be going to an architect, this is just the style/size of home that we are looking for (with a few mods)

Would like to do the feature stonework over the door, and try and get the home to the highest insulation levels possible. I would like solar or geothermal (need to research first).

Thanks for any help!!

Joe

BryanF

joe316 wrote: »

Hi all,

I know that you need details of the exact build but I was wondering would someone be so kind as to give a very high level costing for building the following plan there is a calculator on the site but I would be concerned that it might be out of date. Its to be built in the kildare region.

http://planahome.ie/plans/s28

I know that its only a plan and we are hoping to modify it a bit (extend the kitchen and possibly making the master en suite bigger) but looking for a ballpark figure. editBefore anyone says, we will be going to an architect, this is just the style/size of home that we are looking for (with a few mods)

Would like to do the feature stonework over the door, and try and get the home to the highest insulation levels possible. I would like solar or geothermal (need to research first).

Thanks for any help!!

Joe

What a confused design that is, budget
X sqft by 100€ absolute min

kkelliher

BryanF wrote: »

What a confused design that is, budget
X sqft by 100€ absolute min

I would think that is the very low end as if you go with natural slate and cut stone you will have an expensive envelope, there are alot of dormer windows which add greatly to the costs.

I would be budgeting (with a capital for €130 to give you scope. Get a qs to do a detailed cost plan based in your wants and you will have a more accurite budget. Will cost you a few hundred but will more accuite than sq ft costs and will be based closer to your required spec

joe316

kkelliher wrote: »

I would think that is the very low end as if you go with natural slate and cut stone you will have an expensive envelope, there are alot of dormer windows which add greatly to the costs.

I would be budgeting (with a capital for €130 to give you scope. Get a qs to do a detailed cost plan based in your wants and you will have a more accurite budget. Will cost you a few hundred but will more accuite than sq ft costs and will be based closer to your required spec

Thanks, my mate is a qualified QS and said he will do up all the costings for me, just looking for a general ball park figure so to know whether its a runner or not.

130 is higher than I expected, its 2750 sq foot on their plan, was hoping for around the 280k total figure. Once I get in contact with my mate it should be clearer. Cheers!!

The Parrot

i think that there calculator is a fair bit out. if you go direct labour i would hazard a guess you could get it built for under 200k at a high b spec ber or even into a a spec.
But and this is a big but it is down to what you are wanting as pvc windows could cost say 10k for example but timber frame alu clads could be 20k and then heating systems and stuff can change the cost massively.

im looking to build a house bigger than that and my build i will hope will be coming in around the 200/230k mark the less the better but always be prepared. I plan on doing alot myself as well.

BryanF

The Parrot wrote: »

i think that there calculator is a fair bit out. if you go direct labour i would hazard a guess you could get it built for under 200k at a high b spec ber or even into a a spec.
But and this is a big but it is down to what you are wanting as pvc windows could cost say 10k for example but timber frame alu clads could be 20k and then heating systems and stuff can change the cost massively.

im looking to build a house bigger than that and my build i will hope will be coming in around the 200/230k mark the less the better but always be prepared. I plan on doing alot myself as well.

BER in the "B's" won't comply with current regs. Good luck on your self build let's hope you have good consultants involved...

fealeranger

Before you go getting any quantity calculated you might want to give your local planning authority a call and find out about what design house would be acceptable. Bay windows and dormer windows are not considered by some planning offices and 2 story houses may not be suitable to your desired area. A quick phone call and possibly a planning meeting will answer this question for you.

kkelliher

The Parrot wrote: »

i think that there calculator is a fair bit out. if you go direct labour i would hazard a guess you could get it built for under 200k at a high b spec ber or even into a a spec.
But and this is a big but it is down to what you are wanting as pvc windows could cost say 10k for example but timber frame alu clads could be 20k and then heating systems and stuff can change the cost massively.

im looking to build a house bigger than that and my build i will hope will be coming in around the 200/230k mark the less the better but always be prepared. I plan on doing alot myself as well.

You cant compare apples and oranges:

Where are you based?
OP has not mentioned direct labour (savings doubtful in any event)
Have you cut stone?
Have you natural slate?
Have you the same heating system? (Given none has been decided you cant compare)
Are you insulating to the same levels
Are you finishing with the same materials ir tiles, hardwood floors, doors, skirtings etc
Are you going to spend the same amount on kitchens, utilities, wardrobes
Are you picking the same external glazing
Etc
Etc
Etc

The purpose of a budget it to be in the correct ballpark, the last time i was in the company of someone who was living in hope of their low value costing working out, we were meeting with the bank who subsequently took the land and half build house and sold it for less than had been spent on the half building (i was not the qs for the client 😊)

You have to be careful and not base your budget on the word of mouth of someone who cannot compare the two projects

200/230,000 is also a fair spread in terms of budget. Nowadays i would not think too many could be 30k loose in their budgets

Certified

Using the added free costing calculator on that website gives a price of €310-315k for the approx spec the OP was after (if in Leinster)

So at 2750sqft it's hardly under priced! Consider also that price excludes flooring and tiling.

The design requires a bit of professional input to improve it. Interestingly, the insulation spec in the calculator just goes up to A3?

The Parrot

if you did read my post you will notice i did point out the finally cost will be down to the final spec.

my personal costing has been done by myself and left me with over runs and extra costs in mind as there is always hidden costs. damned things lol.

i think i have everything covered but as a first time self builder im not going to kid myself.

archtech

The Parrot wrote: »

.i think i have everything covered but as a first time self builder im not going to kid myself.

Care to like everything you have covered in your estimated price, that way at least people can get an idea. people's definition of the cost of building a house varies, from builder's finish to kitchen, tiling and flooring and painting.


Certainly €130/sq.foot is a reasonably give budget guide for a new build of at present.

The Parrot

that is still pointing back to my first post. its all down to the finish someone goes for ie kitchens, bathrooms , floors, lighting. windows everything is taken into it.

myself im aiming for a insulated wall value of around the .12/14 with triple glazed windows , and a heavily insulated strip foundation.

i have had quotes from builders with good reputations to get everything up including 1st and 2nd fix for 220k.
which i was well impressed as this was a contractor.

archtech

The Parrot wrote: »

i have had quotes from builders with good reputations to get everything up including 1st and 2nd fix for 220k.
which i was well impressed as this was a contractor.

that appears to be a pretty competitive quote, does it include for utility connections, treatment unit, landscaping, garage, development charges, kitchen, painting, flooring, tiling, etc.

The real cost of building a house is more than just the builder's cost and these need to be factored into any cost of building a house.

The Parrot

i understand this ,

it included connection to services, including windows, roof tiled. what was quoted was for the build itself no out side charges.



no kitchens or painting. unfortunalty no garage on the plans will sorted later. and not the sewage treatments fitted as its a septic tank and a well.

but plasterboard fitted.

but you have to realize this is not your stock 3400sq foot house.
it has 6 gable ends!!! and needs 4890 tiles for the roof alone.

joe316

Thanks for all the advice and pointers, it really is a minefield so all of the information I can get the better.

I forgot to say that that mate who is the QS also owns his own fitout company and a lot of the matierals will go through his company. Kinda acting as site manager with me so I presume that will save a bit of money as well.