Prices for leasing land 2013

REBEL COUNTY1

Im leasing 30 acres of good grazing land this year in East Cork. I have someone to take it but we haven't finalised the price yet. What sort of prices are going p.a. for grazing? It'll probably be a two year lease.

PatQfarmer

REBEL COUNTY1 wrote: »

Im leasing 30 acres of good grazing land this year in East Cork. I have someone to take it but we haven't finalised the price yet. What sort of prices are going p.a. for grazing? It'll probably be a two year lease.

Grass going to be dearer in Tipp, imo.
Avg for good land will be €175-190pa.

Tipp Man

PatQfarmer wrote: »

Grass going to be dearer in Tipp, imo.
Avg for good land will be €175-190pa.

Is there much about Pat?

PatQfarmer

Tipp Man wrote: »

Is there much about Pat?

Unlikely to be much.
We've lost a bit already due to lads "taking it back" themselves.
Will be scarce, therefore drive price, I'd say.
Need a fresh bit myself...:(

Tipp Man

PatQfarmer wrote: »

Unlikely to be much.
We've lost a bit already due to lads "taking it back" themselves.
Will be scarce, therefore drive price, I'd say.
Need a fresh bit myself...:(

"Taking it back" seems to be a common theme

This bloody SFP change has fellas driven mad - afraid in case they'll miss out on something

PatQfarmer

Tipp Man wrote: »

"Taking it back" seems to be a common theme

This bloody SFP change has fellas driven mad - afraid in case they'll miss out on something

Agreed. Some returning owners will lose more money "farming" this year then any potential SFP will be worth.
And no-one knows what reference year will be used. Mad stuff!
But, it's their land to do with as they see fit, in fairness.
Cattle prices in Spring will be high, so that may push a few back to leasing.

stanflt

land around me making up to 250with maps or up to 190with single payment being leased and money given back on top of rent

Timmaay

Your north Wexford aren't you Stan? Is it dairy lads driving the price, or just everyone going mad with talk about the 2014 reference year?

Tipp Man

PatQfarmer wrote: »

Agreed. Some returning owners will lose more money "farming" this year then any potential SFP will be worth.
And no-one knows what reference year will be used. Mad stuff!
But, it's their land to do with as they see fit, in fairness.
Cattle prices in Spring will be high, so that may push a few back to leasing.

This area based SFP is going to drive the rental price of land through the roof from now on

If a fella can get 110 an acre just for having the land - if he only makes another 100 an acre from cutting a bit of hay or having a few cattle - that the minimum price for rental land will be 210 and practically no work. In reality it will be well north of 250

And the demand is huge

Its utter madness and will only limit the transfer of land even further

(but of course as you say it is there land to do with as they please)

Tipp Man

Timmaay wrote: »

Your north Wexford aren't you Stan? Is it dairy lads driving the price, or just everyone going mad with talk about the 2014 reference year?

Think he is in Meath somewhere

bob charles

Tipp Man wrote: »

This area based SFP is going to drive the rental price of land through the roof from now on

If a fella can get 110 an acre just for having the land - if he only makes another 100 an acre from cutting a bit of hay or having a few cattle - that the minimum price for rental land will be 210 and practically no work. In reality it will be well north of 250

And the demand is huge

Its utter madness and will only limit the transfer of land even further

(but of course as you say it is there land to do with as they please)

yip, looks like we will be back to just a yard and have to find acres to get rid of slurry. @ €250 an acre grass is getting very dear and inefficent

darragh_haven

a 40 acre parcel of land with 32,000 gallons of Quota here in West Cork went at €310 p.a. for a 2 year lease. One of my friends took it, and its 4 miles away from him. I would say he's crazy but he's one of the top dairy farmers in the area, so maybe there is method to his madness.
land is constantly exceeding €200 an acre around here for good grassland.....

bob charles

darragh_haven wrote: »

a 40 acre parcel of land with 32,000 gallons of Quota here in West Cork went at €310 p.a. for a 2 year lease. One of my friends took it, and its 4 miles away from him. I would say he's crazy but he's one of the top dairy farmers in the area, so maybe there is method to his madness.
land is constantly exceeding €200 an acre around here for good grassland.....

:rolleyes: would he be interested in a few more 40 ac parcels. im willing to take profit on ground I have leased

Dont be daft

Tipp Man wrote: »

This area based SFP is going to drive the rental price of land through the roof from now on

If a fella can get 110 an acre just for having the land - if he only makes another 100 an acre from cutting a bit of hay or having a few cattle - that the minimum price for rental land will be 210 and practically no work. In reality it will be well north of 250

And the demand is huge

Its utter madness and will only limit the transfer of land even further

(but of course as you say it is there land to do with as they please)

Seems to be going that way alright. I dont know how some of the tillage lads around me are going to keep up with it.

The last decent size farm set around me went for €260 per acre. That was about 8 months ago.
Land just doesn't come up. If your in a place you hold onto it for dear life.
More land has come up for sale around me than for letting in the last year!

20silkcut

Tipp Man wrote: »

This area based SFP is going to drive the rental price of land through the roof from now on

If a fella can get 110 an acre just for having the land - if he only makes another 100 an acre from cutting a bit of hay or having a few cattle - that the minimum price for rental land will be 210 and practically no work. In reality it will be well north of 250

And the demand is huge

Its utter madness and will only limit the transfer of land even further

(but of course as you say it is there land to do with as they please)

It is being pushed by department inspectors as well. They are clamping down on guys renting to tillage men especially.
This puts serious pressure on those intensive tillage men who take 100's of acres a year a lot of them are taking ground off guys farming the maps and this is an area being clamped down on big time.

DieselPowered

Hi, how much is expected for land rental for grazing in Meath this year? Not sure from the prices above if they are relevant all around the country?

Looking to guage 30 acres and 50 acres.

thanks.

farmer1990

Hi everyone, I have recently received land from a deceased uncle and at the moment I'm studying in college so I've no other choice but to lease it.

Now I'm located in North Cork at the moment with 83 acres and I was just wonder how much should I be asking for P.A.??, How long i should set the lease for?? and if it's worth it for me too lease maps out, as with the changes to the SP in 2014-2015 being unknown to the public could i end up losing alot more money in the future??
If i have other options to make money from this land besides selling or leasing it, i would also be very interested in hearing about it.

Thanks in advance for any advice ye can give me.

darragh_haven

bob charles wrote: »

:rolleyes: would he be interested in a few more 40 ac parcels. im willing to take profit on ground I have leased

If you could ship the land to west cork, he'd be interested. They've taken every other piece of land, so why not yours.......

marathonm@n

How much is land letting per acre in Wexford?

Dickie10

will this taking land back antics not do exactly the opposite of what the 2020 food harvest aimed at? can see a lot of unproductive farming being done over the near future. lads keeping bullocks for 4 years and this type of thing. there might be a situation where we have mountians of feed made every year and no cattle or sheep to eat it?