Casino tuning problems

Halloween Jack

Howdy, got an epiphone casino before Xmas, sounds lovely and plays nice and smooth.

However it won't stay in tune for longer than 5 mins. Can a tech sort this out and can anybody recommend a decent tech in the Dublin area?

Many thanks lads;)

Celly Smunt

I wouldn't go calling a tech just yet,have you tried a string change?

feylya

How are you tuning it? Tuning up to pitch? Also, if the strings are new, make sure you stretch them well.

wild turkey

Don't forget to rub a lead pencil in the string slots
helps string slide better = tuning

Halloween Jack

wild turkey wrote: »

Don't forget to rub a lead pencil in the string slots
helps string slide better = tuning

Thanks for all the advice gents, I haven't gotten round to replacing the strings the guitar came with yet so I shall get on that first of all.

As regard the nut, it looks like cheap rubbish, is there any value in replacing it?

wild turkey

A graphtech nut is about €7, make sure you get the right one

Casinoking

I got a casino about ten years ago as a present, had a similar problem. It would tune up fine on open strings, but the further up the neck you went the more out of tune it got. Had a couple of people look at it, the general consensus was it was a "last thing friday evening job" and the fret placement was the problem. Really liked how it played and sounded though so ended up getting a new neck on it and haven't looked back since, although I probably would have flogged it instead if I'd forked out for the guitar as well.

Ravelleman

Casinoking wrote: »

It would tune up fine on open strings, but the further up the neck you went the more out of tune it got.

Sounds like an intonation issue, which should be an easy fix. Getting a new neck, especially on a guitar like that, sounds like utter madness.

Ravelleman

Halloween Jack wrote: »

Thanks for all the advice gents, I haven't gotten round to replacing the strings the guitar came with yet so I shall get on that first of all.

As regard the nut, it looks like cheap rubbish, is there any value in replacing it?

Both of these would be my first port of call.

Halloween Jack

Ravelleman wrote: »

Both of these would be my first port of call.

Cheers for the advice, is replacing the nut a DIY job?

She'll be getting new strings tomorrow after work, after that I'll se how she holds tuning.

If it doesn't solve the issue I may consider returning her.

Ravelleman

A tech should be able to fix this fairly easily if you're not sure how and assuming that there are not structural problems with the guitar.

I'd recommend John Moriarty (archtop.ie), who's based in Clonskeagh. I had a tuning issue with my SG and he sorted it out very efficiently.

He charged €70, which is probably on the higher end of the scale. You might find someone cheaper but he is very good at what he does.

Halloween Jack

Ravelleman wrote: »

A tech should be able to fix this fairly easily if you're not sure how and assuming that there are not structural problems with the guitar.

I'd recommend John Moriarty (archtop.ie), who's based in Clonskeagh. I had a tuning issue with my SG and he sorted it out very efficiently.

He charged €70, which is probably on the higher end of the scale. You might find someone cheaper but he is very good at what he does.

Thanks again for the advice, will contact archtop.ie if necessary.

Casinoking

Ravelleman wrote: »

Sounds like an intonation issue, which should be an easy fix. Getting a new neck, especially on a guitar like that, sounds like utter madness.

Like I said I got a few opinions at the time, and apart from one supposedly expert fella who told me it sounded fine to him the advice I got was either a new neck or flog it. I got strange looks when I went for the new neck option alright, but I liked the guitar.

martinedwards

STOP

take a deep breath.

its a guitar with an adjustable bridge, right?

then you can do this yourself.

seriously, its a dawdle.

look at frets.com.

replace the strings, anmd wind them like Frank on Frets.com says. this will stop slippage.

then adjust the intonation with your new strings fitted.

all it takes is a tuner and a small screwdriver.

AND you can't do anything wrong that a tech can't straighten out if you do mess it up.

seriously, setting intonation on an electric guitar is one of the first jobs any guitarist should learn.

as to replacing the nut, I'd leave it until you are SURE that any problem you have with tuning is intonationa nd not fret p-lacement. once you start replacing bits your warranty goes out the window.

Halloween Jack

martinedwards wrote: »

STOP

take a deep breath.

its a guitar with an adjustable bridge, right?

then you can do this yourself.

seriously, its a dawdle.

look at frets.com.

replace the strings, anmd wind them like Frank on Frets.com says. this will stop slippage.

then adjust the intonation with your new strings fitted.

all it takes is a tuner and a small screwdriver.

AND you can't do anything wrong that a tech can't straighten out if you do mess it up.

seriously, setting intonation on an electric guitar is one of the first jobs any guitarist should learn.

as to replacing the nut, I'd leave it until you are SURE that any problem you have with tuning is intonationa nd not fret p-lacement. once you start replacing bits your warranty goes out the window.

Thanks, will give that a shot later on. I did have a go at adjusting the intonation on my tele once, didn't end well

Ravelleman

Halloween Jack wrote: »

Thanks, will give that a shot later on. I did have a go at adjusting the intonation on my tele once, didn't end well

It's a good thing to learn and if you follow the instructions carefully should be pretty easy! Good luck.

Celly Smunt

Pick yourself up a tusq nut,they're excellent from my opinion.The worst that can happen is,if you mess up your new nut you'll have to put your old one back in.

Halloween Jack

Ok lads, thanks for all the replies. I changed the strings last night and it seems to have done the trick.

Also the intonation was pretty decent but, thanks to the link above I will try and get it spot on when I change strings again.

Many thanks to all who took the time to reply;)