Are all speed camera vans white?

john.west

Hi All,

As the title says could somebody please answer me if all speed camera vans are white or are there different coloured vans on the fleet? I passed a blue van this evening with what looked like a camera sticking up above the rear door. As I recall it was a Renault Master Van. I don't believe it had the camera marking on the side but can't be completely sure of that one.

I am not entirely sure if the speed limit in the zone was 50 or 60 kph. I was doing around the 60 mark, maybe a tad over that speed but only by a few kph at most I reckon.

Either way last thing I need is another €80 fine and 2 more penalty points

Bassboxxx

I've seen red ones

Mint Sauce

Have seen white, red, blue, and yellow. All had reflective markings on them, and the camera logos.

colm_mcm

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056091811

Supergurrier

Seen loads of colours, will be passing an orange one tomorrow on my way from tuam to castlebar

coolhull

Seen red,blue, yellow, actually never saw a white one in this part of the country

wonski

White should be banned - they all should be painted.
Everytime some guy in white van pulls in the hard shoulder to have breakfast roll, people slow down to 60, even if it is 80km/h limit:rolleyes:
I see it all the time.

Seen white, red and blue ones in the past.

john.west

Thanks all for yer replies. I'm guessing there is a fair chance I might be done. Ah well.

wonski wrote: »

White should be banned - they all should be painted.

If you ask me the whole lot of the fu*king things should be banned, its only revenue collection, very little to do with road safety as I see it - they all should be burned

ironclaw

Generally if its white and a Ford Transit, its a Garda Van. All of them are D reg.

If its a Renault, its GoSafe. They have been spotted in White, Red, Blue and Dark Green. Most are KY reg.

mustang01

yes majority of garda ones are D reg white transits, private ones are KY and are few diff colours but beware not all are marked with hi-viz reflectors !!

Lawless2k12

What pisses me off is they catch you for doing a miserly 2kmh over the limit. At least the guards allow about 10% leeway. If I do 82 in an 80 zone, and another guy does 100, we both get the same fine and points. You can easily do a couple over the limit by accident. I also don't agree with them in short 50kmh stretches that come off 100kmh roads. I usually let the car gradually drop to 50 when I'm entering it so I may be doing 70 or so when I pass the sign but I've seen speed vans just inside the 50 zones... didn't know they were even allowed do that to begin with

juan.kerr

All the white ones are, anyway. But don't forget that not all white vans are speed camera vans. A difficult concept to grasp, I know.

mustang01

sur da whole speed limit setup on irish roads is a joke, airport road here in galway is a great wide open road where you can only do 50 or 60k not sur which and the speed camera van is constant der creaming money off poor motorists, turn off it down a narrow one car width by-road and its 80k , absolute madness !!

ironclaw

Lawless2k12 wrote: »

What pisses me off is they catch you for doing a miserly 2kmh over the limit. At least the guards allow about 10% leeway. If I do 82 in an 80 zone, and another guy does 100, we both get the same fine and points. You can easily do a couple over the limit by accident. I also don't agree with them in short 50kmh stretches that come off 100kmh roads. I usually let the car gradually drop to 50 when I'm entering it so I may be doing 70 or so when I pass the sign but I've seen speed vans just inside the 50 zones... didn't know they were even allowed do that to begin with

Most of that is rubbish by the way.

Gardai don't allow 10%. Its at the discretion of the officer. If you car speedo tells you your doing 70km/h, your actual speed is probably closer to 63km/h. Most speedo's are between 5 to 10% under reading. As such if you pass a Garda at 82km/h on your speedo, in a 80km/h zone, your probably not even speeding. Hence why there is an illusion that the Garda give 10%.

Speed vans won't do you for going less than 2km/h over the limit, it used be 4km/h. Its to allow for reasonable doubt and precision in a court of law, which coincidentally neither can be challenged in Irish court (Utterly ridiculous) Bearing in mind however, for a true speed of 82km/h, your speedo would most likely be showing closer to 87km/h i.e. You know your WELL over.

Legislation means you cannot be prosecuted within 200m of a limit change.

I agree however that the fine and points should be proportional to the speed. In America its segmented until your over 100mph, then your arrested on the spot. A similar system should be in play here. Dangerous Driving is probably the closest we have to it but its totally at the discretion of the officer.

Suggest everyone has a read of this: http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/Safety%20Cameras%20FAQ.doc

Lawless2k12

ironclaw wrote: »

Suggest everyone has a read of this: http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/Safety%20Cameras%20FAQ.doc

According to that page: "GoSafe will only operate on sections of road which have a history of collisions occurring where speed was a contributory factor."

I've heard that said many many times and I still call bull on that statement. There's been no major crash on my road in 25 years caused by speed. I recall 3 crashes in total. 1 when a drunk driver hit a pole, 1 where someone pulled out of a side road and 1 where someone just drove into a parked trailer for no apparent reason (Although illness was suspected). There was never a fatal collision or anything very serious. The drunk driver was most seriously injured with a broken arm and some minor cuts and scrapes.

And what I meant by my post is that when the guards speed check they usually (Not always of course) let you off more than the vans. An almost retired guard once told me that he used set up speed checks on a certain stretch off road in Waterford. Limit was 100 but he usually only followed up on drivers hitting 107/108 or more. And that would be 111/112 on the drivers speedo... (Admittedly I phrased it wrongly first time as I implied ALL gardaí allow ~10%)

L1011

A huge bulk of the GoSafe locations are classed as high risk due to the accident rate on an old, replaced road. Best example is the near runway from Termonbarry to Strokestown, extremely common location for a van, where the justification is the number of accidents that happened on the old road, more than half a decade ago.

New road, old road. Spot the difference...

Locally, there's a zone that I've never seen used but the sole death in living memory happened before the road was upgraded from a country track with no footpath to a three lane wide road with footpaths, cycle lanes and pedestrian lights at all junctions. Maybe 20 years ago. Suspect if there was anywhere to park the van they would use it though, as its a wide 50km/h road.

Judge Weiner

Don't speed and it don't matter what colour they are.

/me ties up my steed to the hitching post.

john.west

Judge Weiner wrote: »

me ties up my steed to the hitching post.

That could be an idea alright. I don't think your a driver anyway and if you are your most likely doing minimal mileage judging by that post?

Would you not agree that many of the 50kph speed limit zones are insanely slow and that these speed camera vans are in places that don't make too much sense?