Traffic Enforcment Cameras

Mint Sauce

Does Ireland have any other apart from the speeding ones? Ie. Traffic lights, or yellow boxes.

Seen some cameras recently, think they are anyway, mounted high above junctions on their own pole. Looks like one of them globe shaped cameras, also has a small box with an arial attached to it.

Mr Simpson

The tall ones aren't enforcement, theyre just monitoring. There are a few red light cameras being trialled in Dublin at the junctions with the luas

triple-M

i-d imagine this is a traffic light/yellow box one not 100% sure though http://maps.google.ie/?ll=53.34382,-6.308491&spn=0.004855,0.009645&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=53.343704,-6.308414&panoid=eDJ6FdV9aF5l50E4mBrVtw&cbp=12,4.08,,1,3.62 its also been there a good few years iirc

miller50841

triple-M wrote: »

i-d imagine this is a traffic light one not 100% sure though http://maps.google.ie/?ll=53.34382,-6.308491&spn=0.004855,0.009645&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=53.343704,-6.308414&panoid=eDJ6FdV9aF5l50E4mBrVtw&cbp=12,4.08,,1,3.62 its also been there a good few years iirc

Yes thats a red light cam

Mr Simpson

Afaik thats a static speed camera, think its now deactivated

miller50841

MarkMc wrote: »

Afaik thats a static speed camera, think its now deactivated

It's a red light check where it's situated right at the junction there use to be one the exact same on N11 at RTE inbound.

Mr Simpson

I'm pretty sure its not, google is telling me the same. The first and only red light camera in ireland, is beside the luas

http://www.thejournal.ie/camera-installed-in-dublin-to-catch-drivers-running-red-lights-218288-Sep2011/

miller50841

MarkMc wrote: »

I'm pretty sure its not, google is telling me the same. The first and only red light camera in ireland, is beside the luas

http://www.thejournal.ie/camera-installed-in-dublin-to-catch-drivers-running-red-lights-218288-Sep2011/

Where does it say it's the 1st?

I actually know that the one the op is asking about is a red light one as it was the exact same design one that was outside RTE.

I know from experience and also use to see the odd car been flashed when going through on the red and not flying just when orange had gone to red.
It does happen a lot where the driver would be looking at something else or with some junctions there are traffic lights green only 100meters or less away from the red.

Mr Simpson

miller50841 wrote: »

Where does it say it's the 1st?

In the 3rd paragraph, where it says its the first red light camera project in Ireland

miller50841

MarkMc wrote: »

In the 3rd paragraph, where it says its the first red light camera project in Ireland

Sorry missed that bit;)
Maybe the cops forgot the old ones were there

As far as I can remember someone hit the one outside RTE as pole was bent over.

MugMugs

miller50841 wrote: »

Sorry missed that bit;)
Maybe the cops forgot the old ones were there

As far as I can remember someone hit the one outside RTE as pole was bent over.

They forgot? Or Mark was right and it's an old speed camera?

Odysseus

That has been there years, AFAIK it is an old speed camera, not worked for a long time.

The Royal Scam

I know someone on the inside, not of the box:p. It is definitely a Red light camera on Con Colbert. I used to see it going off . It has been switched off for about 4 yrs now.
I will check with the the next time I see him and see if it was used for enforcement or just a trial

djimi

That camera before Johns Road is a red light camera and has been there for years. Not sure if it is operational or not; by the sounds of it it isnt.

maxfresh

Those globe shaped cameras are dublin city councils for monitoring traffic you can view some of the stills on there website
http://www.dublincity.ie/dublintraffic/

Silvera

There are also ANPR cameras being fitted alongside national routes.

They are mounted in pairs with one camera pointing towards each lane of the dual-carraigeway or motorway. For example they can be seen on either side of the M11 motorway just past Gorey (heading south).

ironclaw

Silvera wrote: »

There are also ANPR cameras being fitted alongside national routes.

They are mounted in pairs with one camera pointing towards each lane of the dual-carraigeway or motorway. For example they can be seen on either side of the M11 motorway just past Gorey (heading south).

They are just CCTV. They don't have ANPR abilities. APNR camera's are serious pieces of kit. Pretty much need their own gantry and need IR illuminators etc. None exist in Ireland that I'm aware of. They look like the SPECS Speed cameras:

Afaik thats a static speed camera, think its now deactivated

The Google map link is a red light camera. There are no road markings and its a 3 lane road. Look the exact same.

miller50841

ironclaw wrote: »

They are just CCTV. They don't have ANPR abilities. APNR camera's are serious pieces of kit. Pretty much need their own gantry and need IR illuminators etc. None exist in Ireland that I'm aware of. They look like the SPECS Speed cameras:





The Google map link is a red light camera. There are no road markings and its a 3 lane road. Look the exact same.

The yellow ones are used up north and the UK as average speed cams

ironclaw

miller50841 wrote: »

The yellow ones are used up north and the UK as average speed cams

They are indeed. The best example is on the old Newry road. We're VERY lucky all this kit isn't in Ireland yet.

miller50841

ironclaw wrote: »

They are indeed. The best example is on the old Newry road. We're VERY lucky all this kit isn't in Ireland yet.

That is true because the way they are going they are actually taking the fun out of driving.
I am all for safety and that but the money could be better spent on improving dangerous roads and widening bends and on country roads having big ditches open and dips beside the road very dangerous etc etc

Silvera

ironclaw wrote: »

They are just CCTV. They don't have ANPR abilities. APNR camera's are serious pieces of kit. Pretty much need their own gantry and need IR illuminators etc. None exist in Ireland that I'm aware of. They look like the SPECS Speed cameras:





The Google map link is a red light camera. There are no road markings and its a 3 lane road. Look the exact same.

Bunclody Town has ANPR cameras in place for the last two years or so. Every vehicle registration entering or leaving the town is recorded. The cameras there are on similar poles to the new N11 camers I described above (i.e. not on gantries).

Mint Sauce

triple-M wrote: »

i-d imagine this is a traffic light/yellow box one not 100% sure though http://maps.google.ie/?ll=53.34382,-6.308491&spn=0.004855,0.009645&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=53.343704,-6.308414&panoid=eDJ6FdV9aF5l50E4mBrVtw&cbp=12,4.08,,1,3.62 its also been there a good few years iirc

These are not the ones I have seen, them ones are a common site in England on alot of types or roads.

Dont have a picture but camera is mounted on a pole similar to height of street lamp. Not your usaul CCTV camera, but very like the ones you see mounted in cellings so that they can see most angles. The box on the side looks like what I can only describe as similar to an internet router.

I assume they are monitoring or surveillance, but have only seen them at junctions.

ironclaw

Silvera wrote: »

Bunclody Town has ANPR cameras in place for the last two years or so. Every vehicle registration entering or leaving the town is recorded. The cameras there are on similar poles to the new N11 camers I described above (i.e. not on gantries).

Could you post a pic of them? I sincerely doubt Bunclody, a town I'm pretty familiar with, has ANPR when the M50 doesn't. The only ANPR cameras on the M50 are the toll cameras. ANPR does not look like usual CCTV. Bigger cameras, IR flood lights etc. Very specialised kit.

The Royal Scam

you mave have seen some cameras on the main aerterial routes into Dublin recently. They may be in other parts of the country I'm not sure.
Someone i know in the traffic corp was telling me they are ANPR cameras and are used for traffic data collection but not be the Garda (I can only presume the NRA) . She did saw that she reckons that they would be used for enforcement down the road but not for at least a few years.

I was having a mooch on Google and found this. The camera in section 1 resembles the ones I am talking about. I'm sure there are not too many companies specialising in this kind of kit in Ireland

http://www.carra.ie/assets/20/B620A4A8-BD24-6EA8-7D53CF3A1CC7C5CB_document/Cara_Counter_product_brochure.pdf

Silvera

The Royal Scam wrote: »

you mave have seen some cameras on the main aerterial routes into Dublin recently. They may be in other parts of the country I'm not sure.
Someone i know in the traffic corp was telling me they are ANPR cameras and are used for traffic data collection but not be the Garda (I can only presume the NRA) . She did saw that she reckons that they would be used for enforcement down the road but not for at least a few years.

I was having a mooch on Google and found this. The camera in section 1 resembles the ones I am talking about. I'm sure there are not too many companies specialising in this kind of kit in Ireland

http://www.carra.ie/assets/20/B620A4A8-BD24-6EA8-7D53CF3A1CC7C5CB_document/Cara_Counter_product_brochure.pdf

They are the cameras I am talking about.
I too suspect that they will be used to send automatic tickets to untaxed/non-"sorn'd"/uninsured vehicles in the coming years.

ironclaw

Silvera wrote: »

They are the cameras I am talking about.
I too suspect that they will be used to send automatic tickets to untaxed/non-"sorn'd"/uninsured vehicles in the coming years.

They are just traffic data cameras.

ANPR cameras cost a fortune. They are above and beyond simple CCTV cameras. They need massive shutter speeds for high speed capture, the ability to work in low light / at night which thus requires IR illumination etc etc. They are not something you can just mount to a pole and walk away. They are simpler in car parks because the speed of the vehicle is so low (often stopped getting a ticket etc) and the light rarely changes (Mostly indoor installations) However on big, fast roads you need big investment. The Garda in question is mistaken in this instance.

The system you posted runs off solar panels. It collects basic traffic data. It cannot read or analyse plates. It certainly cannot be used for enforcement.

ANPR needs something much closer to this



Tax / Insurance will be implemented in van for in my opinion. Like the current speed vans but instead scanning each car for tax / insurance. They will make a mint if (or when) they do it.