2013 registration problem

MarkN

Spoke to a friend who is picking up a new Audi next week. Well that's what he thought!

Not only is his car an extra 1500 quid than it was when he ordered it and paid a deposit but the dealer has said the government/Shannon have not updated the registration system for the increased VRT so the earliest he will have the car is the 5th Jan and anyone else buying a car in ROI won't be picking anything up on the 2nd Jan no matter what the make.

Anyone else hear this? Seems a bit mad to risk messing anything up to do with new car purchases considering the way the sector is?

bazz26

VRT changes/increases were always on the cards, but were not announced until Budget day. Surely the dealer explained this to the customer at the time of order?

Drummerboy08

Haven't heard anything about it yet but that said I'm not back until wed anyway....

Wouldn't surprise me though.

MuppetCheck

My father is picking his up on the 3rd, dealer gave a price on the vrt increase and it was within 50 of it and as it was in the fathers favour he doesn't have to pay it. This car was looked at in early November, ordered later as it was coming into stock anyway.

MarkN

bazz26 wrote: »

VRT changes/increases were always on the cards, but were not announced until Budget day. Surely the dealer explained this to the customer at the time of order?

He may have ordered it before budget, don't really think he's too put off by that though.

He has no car at the moment so had based work stuff etc around the 2nd Jan and assuming he'd have a car, so it's more that.

He's had Audis for years and I brought him somewhere tonight in a BMW and he said he wishes he'd looked at the 5 series now though :P

Gael23

I dont think anyone who agreed deals before the budget will be affected. Surely there has to be a way of getting arounf the problem?

Drummerboy08

ryanf1 wrote: »

I dont think anyone who agreed deals before the budget will be affected. Surely there has to be a way of getting arounf the problem?

VRT is payable at date of registration so no, there is no way around it. The higher price is the higher price, and most customers would have been told about the increase when the deal was done.

rebel.ranter

ryanf1 wrote: »

I dont think anyone who agreed deals before the budget will be affected. Surely there has to be a way of getting arounf the problem?

The only way around it from a customer point of view is where the dealer had agreed up front to absorb the VRT price increase. I know there was at least one manufacturer had planned on doing that, I remember seeing some advertising to that effect. But ultimately the additional VRT has to be paid, it's just a case of who pays.

R.O.R

Unless the car isn't loaded up on the revenue system then I can't see an issue at all. The dealer will Reg the car, but will get undercharged the VRT if the system hasn't been updated.

His dealer price list will tell him what the VRT amount should be, so that's what they charge to the customer and just make sure to keep the difference between what has been paid by the customer and what had been paid to the revenue for when they come looking.

If there is an issue I should know fairly early ok Wednesday - got one car and one car van tlin the garage. Will be chasing dealers for Reg numbers so i get plates made up.

im invisible

A new audi? Should to be able to haggle at least the extra vrt off that

Drummerboy08

im invisible wrote: »

A new audi? Should to be able to haggle at least the extra vrt off that

Course you should.

R.O.R

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Course you should.

Fo sure. I've heard Audi dealers make at least 15,000 on each one they sell.

jimmynokia

This is the governments fault seen an article on it the other day its not ready on the system so you cant pick up any car until the 5th
Government clowns to thank for it...

Nickindublin

R.O.R wrote: »

Fo sure. I've heard Audi dealers make at least 15,000 on each one they sell.

And the Government get another 20,000 lol

DaveJac

R.O.R wrote: »

Fo sure. I've heard Audi dealers make at least 15,000 on each one they sell.

id say they wish they did haha

Autosport

The Car company i'm getting my car from are not passing the extra VRT charges on the cars so the customer doesnt pay.

Did he not have an arrangement with the Audi garage??? Receipt even??

MarkN

If Audi had put up the price that's one thing but as it's a government charge I suppose it's just as the discretion of the dealer if they want to knock another 1500 or whatever it is, off the price of the car.

alexmcred

Audi were advertising in December that they would absorb any VRT increase in the budget it may be worth your friends while pulling them on this. Although he may have ordered at a time when this promotion was not running.

RedorDead

alexmcred wrote: »

Audi were advertising in December that they would absorb any VRT increase in the budget it may be worth your friends while pulling them on this. Although he may have ordered at a time when this promotion was not running.

You werent listening very closely. Ad was pre budget and said that Audi would honour the price you agree with your Audi dealer today regardless of what happened to vrt in the budget. All dealers had the new January pricelist as per predicted increases.

Guy:Incognito

jimmynokia wrote: »

This is the governments fault seen an article on it the other day its not ready on the system so you cant pick up any car until the 5th
Government clowns to thank for it...

Clearly no ones fault and theres no issue.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056843562

R.O.R

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Clearly no ones fault and theres no issue.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056843562

Yep - doesn't seem to be an issue. Just got first reg number for the year through.

MrDerp

MarkN wrote: »

He may have ordered it before budget, don't really think he's too put off by that though.

He has no car at the moment so had based work stuff etc around the 2nd Jan and assuming he'd have a car, so it's more that.

He's had Audis for years and I brought him somewhere tonight in a BMW and he said he wishes he'd looked at the 5 series now though :P

He ordered a new 40-50K car without looking at the alternatives???? :eek:

Nickindublin

RedorDead wrote: »

You werent listening very closely. Ad was pre budget and said that Audi would honour the price you agree with your Audi dealer today regardless of what happened to vrt in the budget. All dealers had the new January pricelist as per predicted increases.

Well I ordered in October and after the budget I was informed there would be an extra cost due to vrt rises.

Henry Ford III

Are there 2013 new car price lists available online anywhere?

Drummerboy08

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Are there 2013 new car price lists available online anywhere?

Skoda have theirs up but VW/Audi don't for some reason.

R.O.R

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Skoda have theirs up but VW/Audi don't for some reason.

VW Pricing I just checked on their website matches what I have, so it looks like it's updated.

Most of the vehicles I've checked on Carzone seem to be the up to date pricing http://www.carzone.ie/new-cars

Also, just checked Jag's on http://cars.irishtimes.com/new-cars/ and they matched my pricing.

RedorDead

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Skoda have theirs up but VW/Audi don't for some reason.

Didnt look hard enough

http://www.audi.ie/etc/medialib/ngw/ie/brochures.Par.0010.File.pdf/price_list_jan2013v5.pdf

RedorDead

Nickindublin wrote: »

Well I ordered in October and after the budget I was informed there would be an extra cost due to vrt rises.

Depends what date in October Nick. Audi dealers got new January pricing Oct 12th. Had you ordered before or after that? Government increase at the end of the day - tough for dealers to absorb it.

Nickindublin

RedorDead wrote: »

Depends what date in October Nick. Audi dealers got new January pricing Oct 12th. Had you ordered before or after that? Government increase at the end of the day - tough for dealers to absorb it.

Ah ok I think it was Oct 4th.. Thanks Redor