Adrien Broner v Gavin Rees

el flaco

Wasn't expecting this matchup!

16th of February in Atlantic City.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/wales/20857095

dandynamo

Interesting to see how Rees performs. If the fight was in Wales it would be intriguing. But I expect Broner to have no real problems. Rees may be competitive fist few rounds if were lucky

wadacrack

Broner to knock Rees out in the middle rounds

walshb

Rees is a nobody, dirt. And I don't care how the Ring magazine rate him.

Scraped by Andy Murray for chrissake. This will be a casual beat down/spar to Broner.

wadacrack

looks who Floyds new best friend is
a younger version of himself

T-K-O

Rees is a solid domestic level fighter. Broner will KO him early.

Fcuk this **** when is Broner fighting Burns?

joepenguin

Ah here, the only reason he beat Andy Murray is that Murray had no plan B, very easy to figure out. Fair play to him for taking the fight though, very brave.

Big Ears

walshb wrote: »

Rees is a nobody, dirt. And I don't care how the Ring magazine rate him.

Scraped by Andy Murray for chrissake. This will be a casual beat down/spar to Broner.

The Lightweight division is pretty thin tbf, I wouldn't quite agree with the Ring's #6 ranking for Rees but he is probably deserving of a top 10 spot (just) and therefore I've no complaints with this fight seeing as Broner fought in November and fights again in May.

Really what you've got at Lightweight is Broner the rising young star who has been touted to become the sport's next Floyd Mayweather, he's expected to destroy any other Lightweight put in front of him.
Then we (seemingly) drop a level and we've got 2 good 'World' champions in Ricky Burns and Miguel Vasquez

Drop a level again and you've got Antonio DeMarco*, Richard Abril, and some feel Sharif Bogere (many feel he's a real decent fighter)
Below this again we've got Raymundo Beltran and Paulus Moses, this is where many feel Gavin Rees would come in too.
Below again you've the likes of Kevin Mitchell, John Murray, Ji-Hoon Kim, Hank Lundy, Marvin Quintero, Daniel Estrada John Molina, Ammeth Diaz....this is probably who Rees should be grouped with.
So anywhere from 8-15 would slot in about right.

Rees will come forward and try to make a fight of it, but he's simply to easy to hit for a guy of Broner's ability and I think this could get very one sided early enough. Rees to be pulled out sometime around round 5-6 if Broner doesn't have the ref calling it off sometime before that.

The only true test for Broner at this weight is Burns imo, Vasquez is awkward,tall and has a good jab, he can create problems for Broner in that respect. But Vasquez simply isn't very good when forced to fight and Broner would be well able to make him do that. Burns is much more rounded and can do a bit of everything, and I think you have to be able to do that to stand any chance against a guy like Broner, although my money would be on the cocky American should they meet.

Should Broner do what's expected and win without complication you would expect him to face Vasquez/the winner of Abril vs Bogere in May. Burns is unlikely imo, neither Frank Warren or Alex Morrison seem keen on the bout and even his trainer Billy Nelson seems to be talking about it not happening anytime soon (although maintaining Burns would win if it did). Ultimately I think Burns vs Broner is just another bout boxing will miss out on


*Not quite sure why some had DeMarco ranked ahead of Vasquez and Burns because imo he was clearly behind them. Most likely it's due to the fact he's fan friendly fighter and was set to meet Broner, therefore they heralded him as #1. It might also have something to do with him holding the WBC which some (idiots) seem to think is better than the rest. Either way it doesn't matter, he was really only the #3 guy upon Broner's arrival to the division.

walshb

I think Burns is tailor made for Broner's body attack, straight right hand and his overall strength. Burn may be competitive for a few rds but I see a DeMarco style beating come the mid rds.

walshb

BTW, I just can't wait for Broner to rise to 140 lbs and meet the likes of Rios and Garcia, and maybe even Khan if Khan stays at 140.

Big Ears

walshb wrote: »

BTW, I just can't wait for Broner to rise to 140 lbs and meet the likes of Rios and Garcia, and maybe even Khan if Khan stays at 140.

I really hope he manages to fight the best at Lightweight first, but I completely agree and I think Light-Welter is where things will start to get tough for him. Nevermind Rios, Garcia and Khan I'd love to see him fight Matthysse, the man is an absolute beast !

boxer.fan

The only thing poor Gavin will get out of this is a few £££ and an unmerciful sore head.

Underground

I was thinking the other day, if Broner is so good, why didn't he represent the US at Olympic level?

I checked his wiki (poor source I know),and all it says about his amateur career is that it was successful and 300 fights long, but doesn't mention any specifics.

Did he represent the US at any world championships or anything? Its just a thought that occurred to me as a lot of the best fighters in the past have been olympic medalists i.e Mayweather, Ward, Lewis, Ali, Klitschko to name but a few.

I know fighting at the olympics isn't a yardstick by which to measure a fighter but it's just something I'm curious about.

walshb

Underground wrote: »

I was thinking the other day, if Broner is so good, why didn't he represent the US at Olympic level?

I checked his wiki (poor source I know),and all it says about his amateur career is that it was successful and 300 fights long, but doesn't mention any specifics.

Did he represent the US at any world championships or anything? Its just a thought that occurred to me as a lot of the best fighters in the past have been olympic medalists i.e Mayweather, Ward, Lewis, Ali, Klitschko to name but a few.

I know fighting at the olympics isn't a yardstick by which to measure a fighter but it's just something I'm curious about.

I agree. It would be worth a bit of research. He is what, 23 now? So, Beijing would have been his games. He turned pro a few months before Beijing. May be worth checking the U.S. trials for 2008 at 125 lbs.

unknown13

Underground wrote: »

I was thinking the other day, if Broner is so good, why didn't he represent the US at Olympic level?

I checked his wiki (poor source I know),and all it says about his amateur career is that it was successful and 300 fights long, but doesn't mention any specifics.

Did he represent the US at any world championships or anything? Its just a thought that occurred to me as a lot of the best fighters in the past have been olympic medalists i.e Mayweather, Ward, Lewis, Ali, Klitschko to name but a few.

I know fighting at the olympics isn't a yardstick by which to measure a fighter but it's just something I'm curious about.

It seems like American amateur boxing is in pieces. It appears that the top amateurs go pro anyway and don't care when the Olympics is on.

I heard Arum signed fighters that could have easily gone to the Olympics 2012 for the US but the opted to go pro before the Olympics instead.

Dick phelan

Anyone watching this God Broner is one cocky git rapping himself into the ring love to see him get KO'd wont hold my breath though

Kerrydude1981

Dick phelan wrote: »

Anyone watching this God Broner is one cocky git rapping himself into the ring love to see him get KO'd wont hold my breath though

No doubt he can box but that interview at the end the man is full of his own sh1te,interview with HBO showed his knock downs and he goes "whats his name" no respect I look forward to the day he falls.

Dick phelan

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

No doubt he can box but that interview at the end the man is full of his own sh1te,showed his knock downs and he goes "whats his name" no respect I look forward to the day he falls.

Yeah that really was low class at least floyd always shows respect to his opponents after the fight but broner still showing no respect what an idiot trying to be funny but really he just comes off as a idiot unfortunatly floyd seems to have created a new breed of cocky twats who want to follow his style Hate Broner even more then Floyd. Also WTF they keep saying Broner is the next Floyd or Leonard honestly i remember mayweather at Broners age being a lot better then what this guy is dont see him being ever as good as Mayweather was in his prime

barney4001

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d6UoJoYfjs

good start by rees but not enough there

T-K-O

delete....

Henno30

Link to the fight - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k2ZZEbJlAYqAUC3Oy2m

I really want to see Broner in with a pressure fighter who's as physically strong as him. The Mayweather comparisons really don't extend beyond how he's being marketed because he fights in a totally different fashion to Floyd. Gavin Rees hit him more times last night than Mayweather's first 20 opponents put together did.

It doesn't matter when he's fighting midgets like Rees and the much weaker opponents he's faced in general, but against Matthysse or even a brawler like Rios it could mean serious trouble for him. Matthysse more so because he's actually got very good footwork as well as being able to crowd an opponent.

And the truth is Broner doesn't have very good footwork at all. He's really more like Toney than Mayweather because what he really wants is to just sit in the pocket and bang. That's a good thing, I think he's going to be in far more entertaining fights than Floyd ever was.

I imagine Broner will be after the winner of Burns-Vazquez and Abril-Bogere to unify the belts before he goes near 140. Because 140 is a pretty scary division at the moment.

Adrien Broner

There are some similarities to Mayweather with the shoulder roll and a few other techniques, but overall Broner is more aggressive and less risk averse.

wadacrack

Adrien Broner wrote: »

There are some similarities to Mayweather with the shoulder roll and a few other techniques, but overall Broner is more aggressive and less risk averse.

broner does posses more power has a bigger frame than floyd also. Broner is fighting peopel much smaller than him .He is very big for that weight Beinterested to see what broner weighs in at on fight night

Big Ears

wadacrack wrote: »

broner does posses more power has a bigger frame than floyd also. Broner is fighting peopel much smaller than him .He is very big for that weight Beinterested to see what broner weighs in at on fight night

He weighed in at 150 lbs for this fight. So did Rees btw if that interests anyone.

wicorthered

Big Ears wrote: »

He weighed in at 150 lbs for this fight. So did Rees btw if that interests anyone.

Can someone explain to me why this is allowed to happen? Couldn't they do the weigh in 3 hours before the first bell. It always annoys me when boxers come in well over the advertised weight! Broner weighing in at 150, means a guy over the welterweight limit can fight as a light weight!!

Henno30

wicorthered wrote: »

Can someone explain to me why this is allowed to happen? Couldn't they do the weigh in 3 hours before the first bell. It always annoys me when boxers come in well over the advertised weight! Broner weighing in at 150, means a guy over the welterweight limit can fight as a light weight!!

There are a lot of fighter safety issues with same day weigh-ins. You still get guys cutting the same weight but they then enter the ring without being properly hydrated. It's definitely a big problem because there's a big incentive to cut as much as possible and fight at the lower weight, but there's no obvious solution. Re-hydration limits would probably be the best bet I suppose.

walshb

I want to take back some criticisms of Rees. I was too harsh in my post about him on this thread. He tried damn hard and did quite well for a few rds. Showed speed and willingness. Broner looked two weights above him. Let us hope Broner beats all at LW and moves up to meet the bigger boys.

walshb

wicorthered wrote: »

Can someone explain to me why this is allowed to happen? Couldn't they do the weigh in 3 hours before the first bell. It always annoys me when boxers come in well over the advertised weight! Broner weighing in at 150, means a guy over the welterweight limit can fight as a light weight!!

They used to weigh in about 12 hrs before the bell. This has changed to 24-30hrs. I don't see much size difference between these two changes (12 hrs and 24-30 hrs). Having them weigh in 3 hrs before could also be dangerous on the boxers. They need some time to rehydrate efficiently.

gene_tunney

Rehydration limits should really be standar but money talks and boxers with big names and big promoters can bully organisations and opponents into complying. Classic case is Broner's fight against DeMarco.

T-K-O

walshb wrote: »

I want to take back some criticisms of Rees. I was too harsh in my post about him on this thread. He tried damn hard and did quite well for a few rds. Showed speed and willingness. Broner looked two weights above him. Let us hope Broner beats all at LW and moves up to meet the bigger boys.

Rees should get a lot of credit for that performance. I didn't expect it at all.