Women to blame for domestic violence with provocative clothing and bad housework,

the culture of deference

An unbelievable foot in mouth fcuk up.




AN Italian Parish priest Piero Corsi has provoked outrage by claiming women were partly to blame for encouraging domestic violence by failing to clean their houses and cook properly and for wearing tight and provocative clothing.




He fixed a text that said women should engage in "healthy self-criticism" over the issue of femicide, or men murdering women. Domestic violence against women is a serious problem in Italy although a report by a United Nations mission in June said it was "largely invisible and underreported".




The text, posted on a website by a conservative Catholic named Bruno Volpe, attacked pornography and erotic television advertising but said women shared the blame for "provoking the worst instincts, which then turn into violence and sexual abuse".





"The core of the problem is in the fact that women are more and more provocative, they yield to arrogance, they believe they can do everything themselves and they end up exacerbating tensions," it said.
"How often do we see girls and even mature women walking on the streets in provocative and tight clothing?"





"Babies left to themselves, dirty houses, cold meals and fast food at home, soiled clothes. So if a family ends up in a mess and turns into crime (a form of violence which should be condemned and punished firmly) often the responsibility is shared," it said.



A third of women in Italy had reported being victim of serious domestic violence and as many as 127 women had been murdered by men in 2010
"After everything that's happened, which has certainly been well beyond what I intended or expected, I think there's need for calm, rest and silence to respond with the serenity and harmony required to carry on," he said.





http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/women-to-blame-for-domestic-violence-with-provocative-clothing-and-bad-housework-says-priest-3337619.html

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Wish my wife wore provocative clothing round the house

Abi

And what is your own opinion of this OP?

Israel_Dagg

Why do people value the opinion of just one person? If several people thought this then it would be threadworthy. There's idiots everywhere.

Temptamperu

Priest says something archaic shocker!!!!

PickledLime

Italian Parish priest...

Because we all know priests have immense experience with loving, domestic relationships to comment on loving relationships with members of the opposite sex and that their life of celibacy is in no way odd, sigh.

ITS_A_BADGER

Inb4 sandwich jokes

smcgiff

Abi wrote: »

And what is your own opinion of this OP?

Think their first line gives a clue.

super_furry

Thankfully fewer and fewer people pay heed to what these sexless archaic old men say.

Wattle

Somebody send that fella a Mrs Doyle.

Manach

And of course the culture of moral nihilist and moral irreverence in the media being pushed by the secular progressive forces have no impact on such things either.

Killer Wench

I wonder if he was directing these comments at his mistress.

CageWager

serious paragraphs there fella

Ihatecuddles-old

Killer Wench wrote: »

I wonder if he was directing these comments at his mistress.

Of Corsi was....

Insect Overlord

Manach wrote: »

And of course the culture of moral nihilist and moral irreverence in the media being pushed by the secular progressive forces have no impact on such things either.

Secularism =/= moral nihilism. Grow up.

Bipolar Joe

Abi wrote: »

And what is your own opinion of this OP?

I'm pretty sure TCOD is all for femicide. Sure, who wouldn't be, it's a wholesome family activity, and I'm sure they would have mentioned their opinion if it wasn't blindingly obvious.

greenheart

super_furry wrote: »

Thankfully fewer and fewer people pay heed to what these sexless archaic old men say.

Yeah that's true but sadly a lot of older people do and they take what the church say to be the truth.
So now there will be catholic women around Europe that have been abused blaming themselves due to this fcukin knobhead :mad:

Son Of A Vidic

Killer Wench wrote: »

I wonder if he was directing these comments at his mistress(altar boy).

Hope you don't mind my slight edit there, which is just to avoid any confusion.

token101

Manach wrote: »

And of course the culture of moral nihilist and moral irreverence in the media being pushed by the secular progressive forces have no impact on such things either.

Priest says something stupid and archaic, blame secularism. Makes sense. We'll just have to wait for the rest with the deferential spirit preaching about hatred and persecution of the religious types.

MadsL

Is there a website where I can view examples of such provocative clothing and bad housework, you know, for reasons.

If so I'll be in my bunk.

Napper Hawkins

Manach wrote: »

And of course the culture of moral nihilist and moral irreverence in the media being pushed by the secular progressive forces have no impact on such things either.

lol

Lucy and Harry

Next this priest will be blaming the children for being attacked by priests over here.What did they do wrong MR Priest?

9959

Killer Wench wrote: »

I wonder if he was directing these comments at his mistress.

He was directing them at his 'mattress', I think it's called 'fapping'.

Mr Benevolent

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Secularism =/= moral nihilism. Grow up.

He just put those words in to make his point look intelligent. It's gibberish though, secularism has led to a fall in both child and domestic abuse directed at women.

Benny_Cake

If he gets into a lot of trouble in Italy over this he should move here, he sounds as if he would be perfect as a district court judge.

the culture of deference

CageWager wrote: »

serious paragraphs there fella

Not sure how they ended up like that

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

Next this priest will be blaming the children for being attacked by priests over here.What did they do wrong MR Priest?

like this


BISHOP John Kirby paedophilia “a friendship that crossed a boundary line”.

CLONFERT: THE BISHOP of Clonfert Dr John Kirby has said it never occurred to him that he should consider resigning after it emerged that he had moved two priests at the centre of child sex abuse allegations to other parishes in the 1990s.


He also dismissed a suggestion that it was unwritten church policy in the early 1990s to move priests suspected of abusing children to other parishes rather than report them to the Garda.


Dr Kirby (73) said he “hadn’t a clue” about how paedophiles operated 20 years ago and thought that it was a case of “a friendship that crossed a boundary line”.

Fr_Dougal

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

Next this priest will be blaming the children for being attacked by priests over here.What did they do wrong MR Priest?

They were too sexy.

the culture of deference

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

They were too sexy.

Fcuking unbelievable. well done for finding that


A prominent Catholic priest Father Benedict Groeschel, founder of Franciscan Friars of the Renewal, host of Sunday Night Prime with Father Benedict Groeschels believes

“youngsters” are often to blame for sexual abuse by priests and that priests who are first time offenders should not be jailed for their crime.
in an interview with the National Catholic Register that has outraged many. According to a UPI report, Groeschel told the newspaper

"People have this picture in their minds of a person planning to -- a psychopath. But that's not the case. Suppose you have a man having a nervous breakdown, and a youngster comes after him. A lot of the cases, the youngster -- 14, 16, 18 -- is the seducer."

Groeschel continued by saying

"Well, it's not so hard to see. A kid looking for a father and didn't have his own -- and they won't be planning to get into heavy-duty sex, but almost romantic, embracing, kissing, perhaps sleeping, but not having intercourse or anything like that. It's an understandable thing, and you know where you find it, among other clergy or important people; you look at teachers, attorneys, judges, social workers."

Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/331892#ixzz2GLlSwSew

Lucy and Harry

I am shocked at the minds of these Priests.Some do good work in life but some are messed up.I know a Christian Brother who when he was sent to learn how to be one was abused as a kid by the older ones then he believed it was normal and he did the same when he went to teach.I think this is why so many are messed up as they were sent to perverts to learn and were only kids themselves and this is how they express themselves.They are not gay it is that their brain is messed up themselves and they think it is normal behaviour.
The fact the Church covered up these scandals shows they care about their own power more than the safety of kids.This is evil and the Church should be kicked out of this country.I was a Catholic myself but now I am a agnostic atheist.
As for men who beat their wifes for not having the dinner ready they are cowards and the Church and its priests should shut up as they are men who have never been married or had kids so what the hell do they know about anything.The man should know if his wife can cook or dresses tarty before marriage so why would he beat her up over these things?A wife beater will beat the woman no matter what as it is what they do.It is not the womans fault.I reckon the Church just wants people not to divorce so they want women to put up with alcoholic wife beaters like in the old days.

Handsome Bob

I'm starting to think these chaps are getting backhanders from the media to come out and say something dumb.

movingsucks

The sad thing is there will be a lot of folks who'll secretly agree with him plenty of victim blaming goes on already
Ugh hate the world sometimes.

UCDVet

movingsucks wrote: »

The sad thing is there will be a lot of folks who'll secretly agree with him plenty of victim blaming goes on already
Ugh hate the world sometimes.

Secretly?

In a perfect world; sure. Nothing bad should happen to anyone. But in the real world, we know that bad things happen. We also know that there are a lot of associated risks that go along with those bad things. In fact, police departments all over the world actively advise people to avoid HIGH RISK behavior.

Not because HIGH RISK behavior is bad, but because it is correlated with a higher incident of crime.

If you buy 10,000 euro worth of electronics and pile them high in the backseat of your car, and leave it parked in the worst part of Dublin you can find....it's more likely to be broken into than if you left nothing in your car and parked it in a well-lit area.

Nobody deserves to be physically assaulted, but if I go into pub after pub telling the biggest lads I can find how bad their girlfriend's are in bed; I'll probably end up getting my face smashed in.

I think there are certainly situations where the victim deserves to share some of the blame.

corktina

I'm off to rob the bank....it's there own fault for having all that money there.

What rock do these dinosaur Priests live under?

(I WAS going to post a fliippant post about women taking off their provocative clothes until I read the link about Children being to blame...)

philologos

Is there anything more to say than that it is completely wrong, and moreover completely unbiblical also?

It seems the more and more that stuff like this said, the more and more that they are just shooting themselves in the foot.

iDave

Bloody atheist secularists always taking these quotes out of context.

Dyr

the culture of deference wrote: »

An unbelievable foot in mouth fcuk up.




AN Italian Parish priest Piero Corsi has provoked outrage by claiming women were partly to blame for encouraging domestic violence by failing to clean their houses and cook properly and for wearing tight and provocative clothing.




He fixed a text that said women should engage in "healthy self-criticism" over the issue of femicide, or men murdering women. Domestic violence against women is a serious problem in Italy although a report by a United Nations mission in June said it was "largely invisible and underreported"




The text, posted on a website by a conservative Catholic named Bruno Volpe, attacked pornography and erotic television advertising but said women shared the blame for "provoking the worst instincts, which then turn into violence and sexual abuse"l]

He's bang out of order except for the cold meals bit.

Zombrex

UCDVet wrote: »

Secretly?

In a perfect world; sure. Nothing bad should happen to anyone. But in the real world, we know that bad things happen. We also know that there are a lot of associated risks that go along with those bad things. In fact, police departments all over the world actively advise people to avoid HIGH RISK behavior.

Not because HIGH RISK behavior is bad, but because it is correlated with a higher incident of crime.

If you buy 10,000 euro worth of electronics and pile them high in the backseat of your car, and leave it parked in the worst part of Dublin you can find....it's more likely to be broken into than if you left nothing in your car and parked it in a well-lit area.

Nobody deserves to be physically assaulted, but if I go into pub after pub telling the biggest lads I can find how bad their girlfriend's are in bed; I'll probably end up getting my face smashed in.

I think there are certainly situations where the victim deserves to share some of the blame.

Er, no.

There is a difference between being not being aware of your surroundings and not being aware if you are at risk in a particular situation, and being to blame for the bad thing that happens.

DarkJager

I suppose all the children abused by his church just brought it upon themselves too? Disgusting ****ing cult.