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Is the Enterprise Dublin to Belfast train safe to travel on?

  • 25-12-2012 5:58pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭


    http://www.u.tv/News/Homophobic-attack-on-city-commuter-train/838f0a22-3980-47bb-a190-a04abd62a9b0

    This brutal attack happend on the Dublin to Belfast Enterprise train on Saturday night last at 10.30. The victim was innocently travelling on his own when four men in their 40´s attacked him as he returned to his seat after a brief visit to the WC. He found they had opened his laptop. After looking at some personal information they proceeded to jeer him and call him a pervert and homo. They smashed his laptop, punched him violently in the face twice breaking his nose, robbed an expensive set of headphones, his Ipod, then proceeded to kick and throw his bag of refreshments including soft drinks and snacks down the carriage. He ran to the next carriage where they followed him and hummilated him in front of other passengers and then told him to get off the train which he did as he feared for his safety. The victim is in his early 50´s, is gay and has a mental disability and was travelling with a Republic disaility card. This is not something one would expect to see in a civilized country in the 21st Century.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/1224/1224328152804.html


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Generally it is safe, but like anywhere, yobbish behaviour can happen.

    Most train carriages have an emergency help point where you can contact staff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ElChe32


    What a horrendous attack :s I've traveled on it before and was no bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,795 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Is there CCTV on the entreprise with it being quiet old it surly would not of bieng on them when they started service?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭azul


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Is there CCTV on the entreprise with it being quiet old it surly would not of bieng on them when they started service?
    There is CCTV on the Enterprise but it might not have been working at the time which would be a real pity. However, the police have fingerprint evidence from the victims laptop and would have CCTV footage at various other locations where the four men were moving. It´s a strong case for having functioning CCTV on public transport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,795 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    it might not have been working

    Is it common for it not to work and IMO there is no excuse for it not working.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭monkeypants


    I've travelled on it before with no problems what so ever. As Victors says, you can get yobs anywhere. It's a reasonable assumption that these gob****es would have behaved in the same way no matter the location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Hope your Brother is ok. There is no excuse for such behaviour and hope these fools will be caught. Where was the guard of the train when this was happening?
    Its a pity that your brother didnt close up his laptop and bring his gear with him when he went to the toilet as it could have avoided the attack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭azul


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    Its a pity that your brother didnt close up his laptop and bring his gear with him when he went to the toilet as it could have avoided the attack.

    My brother left his 11¨Netbook unattended which probably is the reason why this incident happened, this is typical of his behavior caused by his disability. He has dyspraxia, not aspergers as one of the press articles states, and is very absent minded and naive. Anyone in their right mind would not leave an unattended laptop on a public train, particularly on a train heading to Belfast at 10.30pm on a Saturday night.

    He was also sitting at a forward facing window seat in the first row in the first carriage directly behind the locomotive. The attackers had to go out of their way to look closely at what was on the screen because of its small size. Also,the carriage was very quiet at the time with only one or two others in it, the attackers entered unexpectedly as he was in the WC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    azul wrote: »
    My brother left his 11¨Netbook unattended which probably is the reason why this incident happened, this is typical of his behavior caused by his disability. He has dyspraxia, not aspergers as one of the press articles states, and is very absent minded and naive. Anyone in their right mind would not leave an unattended laptop on a public train, particularly on a train heading to Belfast at 10.30pm on a Saturday night.

    I beg to differ Azul.

    We simply cannot allow ourselves to start along this road of apportioning blame in any shape to the victim,in this case your brother.

    None of us should have to consider our own similar everyday actions as inviting physical attack.

    This is one of the reasons why I continually focus upon the lack of attention being given to the similar occurences on the Luas Red Line extension.

    Your brother had the misfortune to share a train with savages of the most basic,raw uncultured kind,who'se main problem is their own total lack of intelligence.

    These knuckle-draggers see anybody who fails to meet their myopic vision of humanity as a threat and they lash out in anger as a result.

    The only deterrent effective for these creatures is humiliation,full degradation,in public,where their admirers and followers can see it for themselves.

    With a bit of luck the PSNI will have a handle on these creeps,particularly as their origin and destination stations are known.

    Best of wishes to your brother for a full recovery,and hopefully he'll travel on the Enterprise as soon as possible again...he,and indeed WE,cannot just sit back and give up so much of our hard-won personal freedom to fascist neanderthals whose only satisfaction is in destruction. :(


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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