milky simmentals

kingping007

Hi guys what is yer experiences of simental ai bulls thinking of using steepa tee jay or defur tee bone...had some calves from kilbride farm newry nice calves but want a change.. have any of ye used cambriant vibrant how was he for milk..im looking 4 good beefy cows with milk is there anything to beat the simmental...let me know what yer using thanks

Bodacious

kingping007 wrote: »

Hi guys what is yer experiences of simental ai bulls thinking of using steepa tee jay or defur tee bone...had some calves from kilbride farm newry nice calves but want a change.. have any of ye used cambriant vibrant how was he for milk..im looking 4 good beefy cows with milk is there anything to beat the simmental...let me know what yer using thanks

I haven't seen any calves off of T bone but IS4 has some good calves left round here, one great heifer calf i know off out of a BBx cow came a bright red white head and she is lovely.

Now whats KFY like is he not the bees nees for width/size when it comes to simm bulls for throwing breeding heifers? i dont deal with Dovea but looking to order 5 of him along with 5 kilmoney bruce, didnt see anything else of theirs that i fancied maybe Tonga the culard.. after that PG/Munster as usual

farmerjack

If you are getting on alright with kfy stick with him, breeding big beefy females with pucks of milk.

Btw kfy is a eurogene bull

farmerjack

If you are getting on alright with kfy stick with him, breeding big beefy females with pucks of milk.

Btw kfy is a eurogene bull

kingping007

thanks guys calves just dropped from kfy look like they will make tall cattle wt good bone my friend likes roe said throwing good stuff but i have yet 2 c them wonder would kfy be ok on simmental heifers r what sim bull r ye using

Bodacious

farmerjack wrote: »

If you are getting on alright with kfy stick with him, breeding big beefy females with pucks of milk.

Btw kfy is a eurogene bull

hi farmer jack,

you're right. my apologies i was thinking of seaview tommy at dovea and not kfy, but kfy would be my no.1 choice and lets see what curaheen vio or tyson at munster/pg brings

bogman_bass

Bodacious wrote: »

hi farmer jack,
lets see what curaheen vio or tyson at munster/pg brings

neither of them are NCBC bulls.
Eurogene and Celtic sires

kingping007

they r two full brothers but vio is suppose to be throwing better cattle and has higher figures wonder what's he like 4 milk nothing worse than having replacements coming through with no milk anyone got heifers from him how r they 4 milk

Bodacious

bogman_bass wrote: »

neither of them are NCBC bulls.
Eurogene and Celtic sires

Apostle? APZ? Easy calving etc but is he leaving good calves

Bizzum

We used a bit of Sim this past few years, and got bull calf after bull calf. KFY bred great bull calves, better than his heifers. I'm not so sure he brought that much milk to the table.
We have a Vio bull calf at the moment and he's a smasher.

I'm starting to favour a cow with a bit more muscle behind her than the Sim brings, but keeping milk. If anyone finds one maybe they can tell me:D

kingping007

ya hard get a cow with both muscle and milk prob looking at a daft limo

Grecco

The problem I find with the Simmental cow is the off spring usually bring a white head or broken white head. I have super cows with loads of milk and produce a great calf every year. But the exporters aren't fond of the broken whitehead though which is a pity because they have gone on to reach a tonne weight at thirty months here on grass only!!

moy83

This bit of white or a mousey brown colour putting buyers can be a pain in the a$$ . I know a fella that breeds super charlaois weanlins . His herd is probably three generations on from lim x fr cows . Every year he has the odd mousey calf or one with a bit of white around the head that usually gets a few quid less in the mart .
Does this colour really make much of a difference in the meat they eventually carry or the time it takes them to put it on ? Maybe bob or pudsey would be good enough to throw a comment about the colour disadvantage ?

leg wax

moy83 wrote: »

This bit of white or a mousey brown colour putting buyers can be a pain in the a$$ . I know a fella that breeds super charlaois weanlins . His herd is probably three generations on from lim x fr cows . Every year he has the odd mousey calf or one with a bit of white around the head that usually gets a few quid less in the mart .
Does this colour really make much of a difference in the meat they eventually carry or the time it takes them to put it on ? Maybe bob or pudsey would be good enough to throw a comment about the colour disadvantage ?

its no different than a bent twisted carrot or a staight carrot we will all go for the straight one sitting side by side,but yet they taste the same,weigh the same and have the same energy.

pakalasa

I often think with weanlings like that, you are better to keep them for the spring and let the Irish farmer go for them. Same for weanlings that might be poor from no milk in the cow, but great breeding behind them.

Tipp Man

Grecco wrote: »

The problem I find with the Simmental cow is the off spring usually bring a white head or broken white head. I have super cows with loads of milk and produce a great calf every year. But the exporters aren't fond of the broken whitehead though which is a pity because they have gone on to reach a tonne weight at thirty months here on grass only!!

Love animals with a white or broken white head - they always do fantastic

But i'm not an exporter

Grecco

Tipp Man wrote: »

Love animals with a white or broken white head - they always do fantastic

But i'm not an exporter

Pity there isnt a few more like you, then again I bet your smug after buying them for maybe €50 a head less than the white charli at the time

kingping007

Ya the colour wouldnt bother me its what is under the wrapper..

kingping007

who is top of the maternal traits in the icbf

pakalasa

http://www.icbf.com/services/evaluations/active_bull_lists.php

Click on Maternal under Beef in above link. Maybe better wait till Monday, when new proofs are out.;)

bogman_bass

we'll know on Monday when the new proofs come out

kingping007

think killbride farm newry gone now

hugo29

remember talking to paddy hennelly of seepa simmentals once and he recommended having Hillcrest breeding somewhere in the line

speaking of white heads do you find them prone to sunburn

1chippy

Im after putting curaheen vio on a couple of cows, any one any experience of him.

foxfield21

NCBC purchased Simmental bull yesterday in Stirling..by Hillcrest Valentine for 12,000gns
Record price for top Simmental at 45,000gns.

limo_100

foxfield21 wrote: »

NCBC purchased Simmental bull yesterday in Stirling..by Hillcrest Valentine for 12,000gns
Record price for top Simmental at 45,000gns.

were did ya hear that they could do with one or two more anyway they dont have that many. they have a new limousin aswel Lennon Frosty FTY so be interesting to see how they work out. O and anyone that wants to know theres a new NCBC website up