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Fsh how much is it worth to you

  • 24-12-2012 1:37am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭


    So you are looking at two pretty much identical cars. Same year colour millage etc. One has a full service history the other dose not. How much extra would you be willing to pay for the car with the fsh??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    20% more.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Yeah about that.

    I've an alfa. It was on adverts for ages as the owner lost the fsh

    got him down to 80% of what he wanted having checked out what needed doing, and the poor bugger wrote out a deposit receipt, then found the fsh the day I collected the car.

    It was worth the 20% to have it, but I didn't pay it.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    sean1141 wrote: »
    .............. How much extra would you be willing to pay for the car with the fsh??

    Very, very, very little if it was petrol engined.

    Not a whole lot more for a diesel either tbh, fsh is a tad over rated around these parts imo.

    There are plenty of cars out there with fsh that have been owned by people with very little mechanical interest or sympathy who'd happily potter around for weeks or months on end with oil level being low etc etc.

    Combine that with the serious faults on many modern yokes (BMW diesels and PSA stuff) often being observed on cars with fsh and I can't really understand why folks love the fsh so much :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,505 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Would need to know the year and price of the cars in question. On a sub €10k car I would pay €500 more, on a car over €10k I would pay €1k more. I would tend to avoid anything with no verifiable history.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    RoverJames wrote: »

    Very, very, very little if it was petrol engined.

    Not a whole lot more for a diesel either tbh, fsh is a tad over rated around these parts imo.

    There are plenty of cars out there with fsh that have been owned by people with very little mechanical interest or sympathy who'd happily potter around for weeks or months on end with oil level being low etc etc.

    Combine that with the serious faults on many modern yokes (BMW diesels and PSA stuff) often being observed on cars with fsh and I can't really understand why folks love the fsh so much :)

    I completely agree. I get all my cars serviced locally and the book is never stamped. It's never made a blind bit of difference when it came to selling any of them.

    It's completely overrated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭kindalen


    Depends on the car really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭TGi666


    while a FSH is handy to have I know too many folk that buy a car based on it rather than the current condition of the car, so regardless I would still give the car a good going over, but if all the boxes have been ticked over the years then its a good selling point further down the road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    kindalen wrote: »
    Depends on the car really.
    Finally someone states the obvious! It's one part of the picture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,145 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Not alot either and definately not 20%. But, if I was faced with 2 similar cars I would go for the one with FSH. Really it only proves that the car has been well looked after


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭eirator


    Only thing I'd believe was a file full of garage and parts reciepts.

    I've been asked by a garage once if I wanted any blank service history pages stamped.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭lomb


    Not worth a penny if you mean a stamped book unless a picture taken and the (main) dealers rung to confirm the mileage on the dates. I personally wouldnt buy a car that didnt have receipts or at least verifiable mileage. The UK MOT logs mileage every year after year 3 and is checkable for free. Id be more interested in how quiet the engine was when warmed ,how smooth the gearbox shifted when warm and cold and also in whether there was any shimmy in the wheels on the move, whether the warning lights all light and go out on ignition start and the electrics/air con work, make of the tires and thread remaining.

    A fsh isnt really worth anything tbh as it has may have no bearing on any of the above. Receipts(not some chalk on the timing belt cover! and a stamp in the book) for money no object servicing like cambelt, clutch and anything else is of course gold.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,886 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    There's value in a verifiable fsh (a stamped service manual isn't enough) for sure, but exactly how much is arguable.

    For starters it provides certainty on mileage, and that servicing was done when required. Receipts will also show where components have been replaced givng additional peace of mind.

    One thing is for certain - a fully documented service history will make any car much easier to sell.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


    I buy a new car every 10 years and service it to the specs required. Its for my own piece of mind. The car has never broken down. I was due to change it but it went through it's NCT so will keep another while.

    I found when I moved here that most garages didn't care about yearly services, if you had a 4 year old car with 10k on it .... it would have 1 service. Another thing noticed here was that instead of changing 4 tyres at a time, in Ireland you would do 1, so older cars would have 4 diff tyres.

    I think a car without any FSH is worthless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭skyhighflyer


    Depends on the make of car IMO. If I was looking at a 5 year old corolla, the seller seemed genuine and said that he'd had it looked after locally then I'd be happy enough.

    When I got my Alfa, I waited for a long while for one with FSH due to t/belt / oil change / general alfa concerns. When I did find the right car, it was also by far and and away the best condition of the many I'd seen with patchy SH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭shawnee


    If I was buying say a three or four year old focus or mondeo tdci , I would gladly pay 500 extra for fsh. Have known guys who have driven for tow/three years without servicing such cars. So when I am buying I do try to get as much info as possible and fsh is info . I would prefer if the fsh contained receipts of work done rather than just a stamp.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    I think it's important. Doesn't necessarily add value, but if selling, it's easier to stand your ground and get a fair price on your motor. I keep receipts of everytghing I get done on my cars. Parts ordered, labour costs for work. Tires. Everything down to a light bulb is information, not only for a buyer, but for the owner too if something needs to be checked for future work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    FSH is nice with an old classic eg my 525 has FSH up till 144k miles, now on 148k miles :)

    But under normal circumstances, it ain't worth a toss to me. While it shows routine servicing (or lack of) it doesn't account for how well treated the car was, how it was driven normally etc. That's more important to me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 866 ✭✭✭renofan


    I've always bought privately and that way, ( all my cars have been a low no. of owners), I can see/meet the owner and get a feel from them on how the car has been treated. I've walked away from a few as a result and every car I've bought has not had a service history and all the dailies I've put over a 100k miles on them no problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    Wouldn't bother me, I wouldn't pay over the odds for FSH, damn does this mean I'm agreeing with RJ.. there are so many tell tail signs of engine condition, suspension etc that I wouldn't have to see it to know if the car was good or not.


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