Dep Justice Policy?Non EU migrants enter Dublin port without checks/visa/record kept

xmas14

I travelled from Holyhead to Ireland a number of times this Autumn as a foot passenger. The gardai at Dublin Port checked nobody's paperwork. No records are kept either. People from certain countries e.g. Nigeria, Angola need a valid Irish entry visa before arriving in the State. Visas are issued country specific and not for the common travel area. A person from say Nigeria would need an Irish visa to travel from the UK to Ireland. On one occasion I saw the passport of the lady behind me and it was an Angolan passport. Not that it mattered as no checks whatsoever were done.

Funnily enough when I go from Dublin Port to Holyhead, the British Authorities always check passports.

Do we know who these people are?
What they did do in their own country?
Do they have passports and are these passports legitimate? How is the legitimacy of these passports checked?

Why is this still going on in 2012? Is it Dept of Justice policy as it is this way no matter what garda is on duty? No matter which garda was on duty no checks were done? Also, they kept no records.

Valetta

What people are you talking about?

Have you checked passports?

How do you know there are any people from Nigeria or Angola coming into Ireland as foot passengers?

The Idyl Race

xmas14 wrote: »

I travelled from Holyhead to Ireland a number of times this Autumn as a foot passenger. The gardai at Dublin Port checked nobody's paperwork. No records are kept either. People from certain countries e.g. Nigeria, Angola need a valid Irish entry visa before arriving in the State. Visas are issued country specific and not for the common travel area. A person from say Nigeria would need an Irish visa to travel from the UK to Ireland. On one occasion I saw the passport of the lady behind me and it was an Angolan passport. Not that it mattered as no checks whatsoever were done.

Funnily enough when I go from Dublin Port to Holyhead, the British Authorities always check passports.

Do we know who these people are?
What they did do in their own country?
Do they have passports and are these passports legitimate? How is the legitimacy of these passports checked?

Why is this still going on in 2012?

Why don't you call out in a loud voice, "Excuse me Sir or is it Madam, you look a bit black to be coming in unhindered. Garda, check that visa!!"

It would help to look a bit indignant, by dropping your jaw and arching your eyebrows, and pointing.

Alternatively, you could have a warm soothing cup of mind your own business.

JustAThought

The Idyl Race wrote: »

Why don't you call out in a loud voice, "Excuse me Sir or is it Madam, you look a bit black to be coming in unhindered. Garda, check that visa!!"

It would help to look a bit indignant, by dropping your jaw and arching your eyebrows, and pointing.

Alternatively, you could have a warm soothing cup of mind your own business.

As usual the shouting down of the indignant. Don't bother OP . Better to write & ask & demand a proper competent service.

xmas14

Valetta: The more important question is how did the Gardai at Dublin Port know where the migrants country of origin was as they never approached foot passengers. I saw the passport of one lady behind me and it was Angolan.

My point is that nobody checked passports at Dublin Port.

xmas14

Hi Just a thought. Its not entirely the individual garda's fault. The gardai are only doing what they are told to do. If this wasn't the case, their superiors would have raised questions years ago about why Non-EU migrants were not having their visas checked. Its bigger than this. Its been going on for years.

Also, getting the Dept of Justice to investigate this is like asking the Catholic church to have investigated Child Abuse in the Catholic Church.

djpbarry

xmas14 wrote: »

Hi Just a thought. Its not entirely the individual garda's fault. The gardai are only doing what they are told to do. If this wasn't the case, their superiors would have raised questions years ago about why Non-EU migrants were not having their visas checked. Its bigger than this. Its been going on for years.

Also, getting the Dept of Justice to investigate this is like asking the Catholic church to have investigated Child Abuse in the Catholic Church.

Investigate what? What's the problem? The UK & Ireland constitute the Common Travel Area - passport checks on sea crossings have been minimal for years.

xmas14

Hi djpbarry: The Common Travel Area means that there are no passport controls in operation for Irish and UK citizens travelling between the two countries.http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/moving_abroad/freedom_of_movement_within_the_eu/common_travel_area_between_ireland_and_the_uk.html

People from certain countries e.g. Nigeria, Angola need a valid Irish entry visa before arriving in the State. Visas are issued country specific and not for the common travel area. A person from say Nigeria would need a separatae Irish visa to enter Ireland and a separate UK visa to enter UK. Irish immigration officers have the power to carry out checks on people arriving in the State from the UK, just they do not do so.

The British authorities do checks on people arriving into Holyhead port from Ireland despite it being a common travel area. As regards non-EU migrants arriving in from Britain, or even checking visas, The Irish authorities at Dublin Port don't do any checks or keep any records.

Why don't Irish authorities check that Non-EU migrants into Ireland from the UK have the required visas? It must make our immigration system much more complicated to run as no visas are shown to enter Ireland from UK port and no entry dates recorded?