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European Car of the Year 2013 - The Candidates

  • 14-12-2012 9:40pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭


    http://www.caroftheyear.org/candidates/2013_1/coty

    Simple really. 32 candidates for this years ECOTY and they're all in the above link. Not putting up a poll because A) it would take forever and B) you can only have 25 options in a boards poll. Post your choice and we'll see what come out on top tomorrow.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    would you atleast type the names of them all so I can see on the phone ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Audi A3
    BMW 3-Series
    Chevrolet Malibu
    Dacia Lodgy
    Fiat 500L
    Ford B-MAX
    Honda CR-V
    Hyundai i30
    Hyundai Santa Fe
    Kia Cee’d
    Kia Optima
    Mazda6
    Mercedes-Benz A-Class
    Mercedes-Benz SL
    Mitsubishi Outlander
    Mitsubishi ASX/Citroen Aircross/Peugeot 4008
    Opel/Vauxhall Adam
    Opel/Vauxhall Mokka
    Peugeot 208
    Porsche Boxster
    Renault Clio
    Skoda Rapid/Seat Toledo
    Smart ED
    Subaru Impreza
    Subaru XV
    Subaru BRZ/Toyota GT86
    Tata Vista
    Toyota Prius Plug-in
    Toyota Prius Plus
    Volkswagen Golf
    Volvo V40
    Volvo V60 Plug-in


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭Saab Ed


    Flavia & Auris didn't end up in the last 32 for some reason Colm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Probably another hybrid/electric winner this year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭MuppetCheck


    I'd put a tonne on the Golf.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Wtf is the golf doing there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭Saab Ed


    Guys do us a favour and in between the chat, can ye just post your actual choice in Bold so they can be easily counted. Thanking you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    There's a Subaru impreza?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭MuppetCheck


    There isn't actually a stand out car for me as I haven't experience of anything bar the ceed which I have been incredibly impressed by. However I think given the (advertising related) reviews and I'd imagine luxurious junket The VW Golf will get it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭Saab Ed


    Volvo V60 plug In for me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Nickindublin


    The problem with list is you have cars from Dacia to a Porsche lol

    Volvo V40


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    BMW 3-Series

    Motortrend; US take on this.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 487 ✭✭Cungi


    Wow. Thats some varied choices. Everything from lectric shopping trolleys to male menopause 2 seater sports cars!

    I'm gonna go with the BRZ/GT86
    Damn that's a sexy looking veh-hicle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Cungi wrote: »
    Wow. Thats some varied choices. Everything from lectric shopping trolleys to male menopause 2 seater sports cars!

    me too BRZ/GT86 everything else is just boring.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭Saab Ed


    The Toybaru in the lead so far then ......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    have to say its a bad selection this year,

    all those massive grills,

    i dont think the suv's should be there or the BMW or audi tbh

    if i had to vote i'd go with one of the Volvos Hyundi or Kia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,106 ✭✭✭dar83


    GT86

    I want it to win for it being a driver focussed petrol car built for all the right reasons. That actually deserves the accolade, but I know it won't win...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    dar83 wrote: »
    GT86

    I want it to win for it being a driver focussed petrol car built for all the right reasons. That actually deserves the accolade, but I know it won't win...

    What he said.....

    GT86/BRZ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭enumbers


    gt86


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 164 ✭✭TossL1916


    GOLF
    Realistically, it has to be the Golf. New MQB platform means its significantly lighter than all its rivals ( bar the other MQB cars, Seat Leon, A3 ) , it has best-in-class engines, its refined, better to drive than the more expensive A3 and has a interior better than most even from the class above. You might say the i30 does 90% of what the Golf does for a smaller price, but, long-term, the Golf would be better value when you factor in more efficient engines and much lower depreciation. I'd give a close second to the also excellent Mazda6, tied third between 3-Series and Boxster. The GT86 is a great car but is just too compromised as a day-to-day car to be worthy of the accolade. Cars like the Boxster show how scintillating performance and handling can go hand in hand beautifully with everyday ease of use, a feat the Toyota can only dream of emulating.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Barry Barry


    KIA Optima gets my vote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    What does the GT86 bring to the table that is in anyway new or gamechanging? Nothing I would say, its a 2.0 litre engine in a decent chassis. No ground braking new tech, innovative features. Now dont get me wrong but I like the car but its not COTY material.
    Sometimes simple fun things are the best things ;). So far only BRZ has this package, which is a great bang for your money. Not in this country though. The part " cheap " is very very fine line in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    As much as I like the GT86, I can see the VW Golf or something like that winning it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RedorDead


    Shortlist of 8 appeared in the Irish Times last Wednesday - article below. Wonder if they will be brave enough to give it to the Golf.
    The shortlist for the 2013 Car of the Year in Europe has been completed, with eight new models making the cut. These are:

    1 Ford B-Max

    2 Hyundai i30

    3 Mercedes A-Class

    4 Peugeot 208

    5 Renault Clio

    6 Subaru BRZ/Toyota GT86

    7 Volkswagen Golf

    8 Volvo V40

    The finalists were selected from a total of 32 new models by the jury of 59 international journalists from 23 countries.

    “The decision will be exciting this year,” says Frank Janssen, motoring editor for Stern magazine in Germany and secretary general of the international jury. “There is an upcoming trend in 2013: the return to compact models. Driving pleasure is guaranteed by sportiness and high quality standards.”

    Before the winning car is announced on March 4th at the Geneva motor show, the final eight cars will undergro further intensive testing, including a day-long session on a testing track near Paris that includes sections for suspension and dynamic testing.

    The cars will be assessed under four criteria: innovation, quality, value for money and design. The votes of each jury member is published, along with their explanation notes, when the winning car is announced in March.

    With the announcement of the 2013 winner, the European car of the year award will also mark its 50th anniversary. The award was initially created by seven European magazines from seven countries: Stern in Germany; Autocar in the UK; Auto in Italy; L’Automobile magazine in France; Autopista in Spain; Autovisie in The Netherlands; and Vi Bilägare in Sweden.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    I'd have to say the SUYOTA too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,106 ✭✭✭dar83


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    What does the GT86 bring to the table that is in anyway new or gamechanging? Nothing I would say, its a 2.0 litre engine in a decent chassis. No ground braking new tech, innovative features. Now dont get me wrong but I like the car but its not COTY material.

    I don't think thats the point of why any of us that have chosen it, have done so.

    I chose it because it's the only car out of any of them (maybe Boxster aside) that is made for all the right reasons and not a hyper-eco, derve plain mobile. In this day and age it deserves the award simply for that. :)

    It might not be innovative in any shape or form, but it's going back to what cars should be about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭Muckie


    GT86 no TDI family cube, people carrier for me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭166man


    I think the Subaru/Toyota thingy should win it, but in reality it's probably going to be the Golf, what with all that innovation and value for money it brings to the table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    The GT86 and V40 are the only ones id bother with out of the finalists.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Really hope the GT86 will win this. I'm normally no fan of Japanese cars, but this car is an exception
    The cars will be assessed under four criteria: innovation, quality, value for money and design

    1. Innovation - a breath of fresh air in these tight times when everybody seems to be buying frugal little sh1tboxes from Korea. A real sporty real fun RWD sportscar. Massive improvement in emissions / fuel consumption in the Subaru petrol boxer engine, which some people had already assigned to history

    2. Quality - Toyota car with Subaru engine. I think we're alright here :)

    3. Value for money - only a few grand more than your average hot hatch. Next step up a Porsche Boxster for twice the money

    4. Design - this stunner sure has that category won!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭Saab Ed


    Guys I think its fair to say, as far as boards.ie posters are concerned, the GT86/BRZ is the car of the year and by a country mile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    whats the point of car of the year when it automatically rules out actual amazing cars like Lambos, Ferraris and just concentrates on the mundane?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,413 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    whats the point of car of the year when it automatically rules out actual amazing cars like Lambos, Ferraris and just concentrates on the mundane?
    Because, they want to use this to help sell the cars, Supercars need no help in that department.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    RedorDead wrote: »
    Shortlist of 8 appeared in the Irish Times last Wednesday - article below. Wonder if they will be brave enough to give it to the Golf.

    Going on past form (http://bit.ly/JxMe1N), and seeing as there's nothing Italian in the running, it'll probably go to the Renault Clio or the Pug 208 :rolleyes:

    GT86/BRZ should win it, but I doubt they've the balls to go there.


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