stolen on company property

Handeman

I work for a large multinational and my bicycle was stolen recently while I was in work, it was parked in an open bike shed but unfortunately was not locked on the day in question ( I'd forgotten the key for the lock ) the said bike shed is less than 50 feet from the company security hut and yet they still managed to make off with 2 bikes on the night in question. I was wondering if the company should replace the bike as it was on their property and they are paying for security. Don't tell me to get a new one on the cycle to work scheme that has been running for nearly 5 yrs as our beloved company flat out refuses to participate in it.

thanks for the help

Reloc8

Handeman wrote: »

I work for a large multinational and my bicycle was stolen recently while I was in work, it was parked in an open bike shed but unfortunately was not locked on the day in question ( I'd forgotten the key for the lock )

That's why it was stolen.

Handeman wrote: »

I was wondering if the company should replace the bike as it was on their property and they are paying for security.
thanks for the help

Nope.

Well, sorry, should they ? Sure, if they feel like it and want to earn your goodwill but do they have to ?

Nope*.

You'll see a sign somewhere that says anything left here is left at owner's risk. Even if the sign wasn't there its still your responsibility to lock your bike
and the company is not liable for the criminal acts of a third party.

*absent something extraordinary, like the company security officer stole your bike or deliberately let someone do so.

Procrastastudy

Is this a serious question? You left it unlocked.

Reloc8

Actually...it pains me to say it...but section whatever of the Feeling Sorry For Myself Act 2006 or whatever it was might actually have some application here.

There, I said it.

Procrastastudy

Reloc8 wrote: »

Actually...it pains me to say it...but the Feeling Sorry For Myself Act 2006 or whatever it has might actually have some application here.

There, I said it.

FFS! :pac:

CIARAN_BOYLE

Handeman wrote: »

I work for a large multinational and my bicycle was stolen recently while I was in work, it was parked in an open bike shed but unfortunately was not locked on the day in question ( I'd forgotten the key for the lock ) the said bike shed is less than 50 feet from the company security hut and yet they still managed to make off with 2 bikes on the night in question. I was wondering if the company should replace the bike as it was on their property and they are paying for security. Don't tell me to get a new one on the cycle to work scheme that has been running for nearly 5 yrs as our beloved company flat out refuses to participate in it.

thanks for the help

Security probably had no idea that something untoward was going on.

I mean if it was locked and some guys with came in and cut open the locks an security ignored it then maybe you would have a claim but instead someone came and took an unlocked bike. As far as security could have been concerned they may have been taking their own property back.

Its not like they have a database of employee bikes and who owns what.

Strawberry Fields

No but you could bring this to the attention of the managing directors, point out the expense of keeping a security post when bikes are still being stolen, ask for a breakdown of the companies accounts viz a viz how much money is spent on a lame duck security. Ask for the employment record of the security guard in question and ensure a full vetting has been carried out.

Then mention you didn't lock it because you were so sure all the above was in order.

coylemj

godeas16 wrote: »

No but you could bring this to the attention of the managing directors, point out the expense of keeping a security post when bikes are still being stolen,

You will be told in no uncertain terms that the security man is there to protect company property. If you want someone to mind your bike, hire your own security.

godeas16 wrote: »

ask for a breakdown of the companies accounts viz a viz how much money is spent on a lame duck security.

Might as well ask for your P45 while you're at it.

godeas16 wrote: »

Ask for the employment record of the security guard in question and ensure a full vetting has been carried out.

None of your business and anyway, data protection act applies. Do you have a job in the real world or are you just taking the p1ss?

godeas16 wrote: »

Then mention you didn't lock it because you were so sure all the above was in order.

See first answer above.

Strawberry Fields

That's great, with a sense of humour like that I'm surprised you're not doing stand up. They say it's the yanks who don't get sarcasm.

coylemj

godeas16 wrote: »

That's great, with a sense of humour like that I'm surprised you're not doing stand up. They say it's the yanks who don't get sarcasm.

I did ask if you were taking the p1ss, guess that's my answer. This is boards after all, they're a rum bunch around here, never know who you're dealing with

mikemac1

Management will toss you out of the office if you ask for compo

But you should still raise it and that's more about getting lighting, CCTV and maybe a door lock for this bike shed
All of these can be done very easily if you ask in the right way

Won't get your bike back but it can save your next bike

Marcusm

Any duty of care they will have had to you will have been undone by you leaving the bike unlocked; if you worked for me and raised this issue, I would probably think twice about using you for any complex or difficult projects. SOmetimes life sucks, sometime we make mistakes. Not being a victim is partly caution, partly attitude.

NoQuarter

Reloc8 wrote: »

Actually...it pains me to say it...but section whatever of the Feeling Sorry For Myself Act 2006 or whatever it was might actually have some application here.

There, I said it.

s6 is broken limbs.

s7 is lost property section.

Procrastastudy

I thought up a really good comeback to you should do stand up routine - its that good I have to share it - no build up.

I am a comedian - every Wednesday at my local club is open mic night. They throw vegetables at me - I thought about becoming a Barrister but this pays better.

I'll get my coat.