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E85 petrol, using it in a 1998 Mitsubishi Colt

  • 11-12-2012 7:07pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭


    E85 petrol, using it in a 1998 Mitsubishi Colt 1.3 petrol

    Hi,

    I am in Sweden for the winter, the petrol stations have E85 petrol and a 95, I have been putting in E85 because its cheaper, like about 1.20 a litre, will it be OK to put in the Colt

    Thanks


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    CamperMan wrote: »
    E85 petrol, using it in a 1998 Mitsubishi Colt 1.3 petrol

    Hi,

    I am in Sweden for the winter, the petrol stations have E85 petrol and a 95, I have been putting in E85 because its cheaper, like about 1.20 a litre, will it be OK to put in the Colt

    Thanks


    Doesnt E85 eat into the rubber fuel lines and also the injector seals???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    no idea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭anthony4335


    Car has to be rated to take E85, otherwise it will eat the pump lines and seals. So I would say no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    Car has to be rated to take E85, otherwise it will eat the pump lines and seals. So I would say no.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080521133631AAvgANK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    I'm actually surprised that the car is running properly at all. Damaging rubber lines etc is only one part of the issue. E85 burns completely differently to normal petrol and car have to have specific ecu mapping, amongst other things to run on it safely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Matt Simis


    I dont put much stock into the rubber problems as long as the car is made after the late 80s. However as noted the Air to Fuel mixture is very different on E85, you wiill typically need injectors capable of injecting 30-50% more fuel by volume which is miles outside the scope of stock injectors and ECU mapping, so you will be running super lean.

    You will likely get very poor MPG and very hard starting on an unconverted car. You might be ok doing a 50% blend of E85 and regular petrol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    maxol were the only suppliers of e85, and they stopped selling it 2yrs ago

    .. where is the op.gettingit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭Mikko Mallikas


    .. where is the op.gettingit?
    Sweden, We have e10 here in Finland as standard, and there was uproar when it came in first as to whether older cars can take it or not, seems they can now after a couple of years. I have had my Finnish car in Sweden many times and absolutely no way would I use their e85 in my car, and in fact I had a flexi fuel rental Volvo there once and used e85 and the l/100km was atrocious as was the power from it so filled with regular 95 to much improvement. So in a word, NO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭Mikko Mallikas


    Oh and I´d also say the Swede´s are having a good old laugh at the Paddy filling up his ´98 car with fuel they know is suitable for even only a very small percentage of even Swedish cars. i.e you don't look or speak like Björn and don´t drive a Björn car.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    sorry.. I missed that in the first post.

    e85 will work in your car, but you will get poor mpg.
    also that much ethonal will rot the rubber hoses etc.

    off you're not too bothered about the car you could try a 50:50 mix of e85 and e10

    but it's not really worth it.

    I used e85 in a car before, but it was going for the scrappage scheme, so I wasn't a bit worried about causing damage.,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 gtturbokid


    dont no to much about it but i think it is for high performance vehicles its meant to burn a lot more quickly due to the level of ethanol in it and its supposedly bad for your standard fuel tank and lines (dont quote me on that)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    I put a couple of tanks of E10 in the tank when I was in Germany, the car was knocking badly, but then it was almost 40 deg C outside... :D

    so here I am in Sweden, its minus 18 deg C outside, the car has E85 in the tank, it starts OK, and sounds quieter when Im driving along than if I had have put 95 in the tank, but dont want to risk damaging the car so will put 95 back in on teh next fill....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Matt Simis


    gtturbokid wrote: »
    dont no to much about it but i think it is for high performance vehicles its meant to burn a lot more quickly due to the level of ethanol in it and its supposedly bad for your standard fuel tank and lines (dont quote me on that)

    Try reading the thread you are posting in... :pac:

    CamperMan wrote: »
    I put a couple of tanks of E10 in the tank when I was in Germany, the car was knocking badly, but then it was almost 40 deg C outside... :D

    so here I am in Sweden, its minus 18 deg C outside, the car has E85 in the tank, it starts OK, and sounds quieter when Im driving along than if I had have put 95 in the tank, but dont want to risk damaging the car so will put 95 back in on teh next fill....
    Everything from the "knocking" on E10 in the heat to the running ok on E85 in the cold is counter-logic. At best you are running so lean now that the symptoms are different than expected.


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