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Pneumonia

  • 10-12-2012 4:37pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭


    Having a great time with Pneumonia in the shed this year. A few weanlings got it and I ended up removing 14 of them from the shed altogether and I will have to feed them outside. Same number inside as previous years so I doubt it is caused by overcrowding. All were injected with 'mectin after been in two weeks, could be severe on them, I know. the Weanlings in question also got that preventative powder stuff on silage for the first week.

    So two questions

    1: is it everywhere?

    2: What are you treating it with?

    Thanks!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    its everywhere this year. we are putting ctc through the meal with all th e weanlings for a while.. everything got done with rispoval, up the nose. we are doing all calves after the nine days too or as they calve down in fives as its the smallest bottle i can get. I opened up a few of the sheds too by removing some of the side sheeting to allow more wind through.
    We are finding draxxin has the best results, if they do get it. but i think its nearly e4 a cc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭epfff


    Had bad doing in spring with it
    mainly relaps when the back in shed few weeks in november
    think/hope its sorted now
    nourflour was best i found
    dear but worked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,340 ✭✭✭jfh


    particularly bad this year, we have weanlings on http://www.interchem.ie/index.php?page=Respichlor-Powder-15-3-kg put thought meal & inject with http://www.msd-animal-health.co.nz/products/engemycin_/010_product-overview.aspx
    constant battle though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭TUBBY


    munkus wrote: »
    Having a great time with Pneumonia in the shed this year. A few weanlings got it and I ended up removing 14 of them from the shed altogether and I will have to feed them outside. Same number inside as previous years so I doubt it is caused by overcrowding. All were injected with 'mectin after been in two weeks, could be severe on them, I know. the Weanlings in question also got that preventative powder stuff on silage for the first week.

    So two questions

    1: is it everywhere?

    2: What are you treating it with?

    Thanks!
    It sounds very like hoose pneumonia to me .if they had big worm burden the mectin would kill all together so cause coughing. Had hell with that before. This year did them with drench first which kills worms slower.followed on with mectin. Had no trouble at all. Bit of extra work but well worth it Imo. To answer the question on treatment. Gave them nuflour and cortisone. Had to repeat on some but all well improved within the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭munkus


    TUBBY wrote: »
    It sounds very like hoose pneumonia to me .if they had big worm burden the mectin would kill all together so cause coughing. Had hell with that before. /

    Thanks Tubby,

    About three weeks before they went in they got a dose of white drench, albinex I think. You could be right though as they were coughing when they went in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    have 29 weanlings in a shed with their mothers all july aug sept born done with rispoval up the nose b4 2 weeks old also ibr live marker at that stage then ibr booster shot about 6-8 weeks later then all were done with rispoval 3 recently. they also have access to a sacrafice paddock for fresh air. We STILL have to pull out the odd calf and give alymicin to them:eek::confused:. try to cover all bases but this year seems to be a tunt!!! forgot to say they have also got 2 treatments of the ctc powders!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Im vaccinating the calves at a week old with bovipast and then a booster 3 weeks later,Started this 3 years and am well chuffed ith results.Live wait gain is definetely better.Before this i found that some of the calves had to get nufichlor and weanlings would have to get ctc powder a bit after housing.Its expensive though at 10.50 for the 2 shots


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭PatQfarmer


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Im vaccinating the calves at a week old with bovipast and then a booster 3 weeks later,Started this 3 years and am well chuffed ith results.Live wait gain is definetely better.Before this i found that some of the calves had to get nufichlor and weanlings would have to get ctc powder a bit after housing.Its expensive though at 10.50 for the 2 shots

    I agree. We vaccinate all calves with Rispoval IBR and Bovipast.
    Re did the Autumn '11 and Spring '12 calves before they went in shed. They had a few sniffles all "summer" due to the weather, vaccination cleared it all up. Healthy out...so far. Vaccination well worth the cost, imo.

    Agree also re worming. In Autumn '11 we used Closamectin on weanlings with worm burden prior to going in shed. Nearly killed a few of them, coughing up dead worms and getting pneumonia.
    This year used drench about 6 weeks before going in and injected Ivomec 2 weeks before. Much better job, no coughing.
    Need to plan a dosing and vaccinating program for housing in August, really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 melly


    We've this problem in one particular shed at this time every year. It started a couple of years ago when calves in a pen got a drowning with snow one night. In the morning you would go into the shed and there would be a chorus of coughing. That year under vets advice we had to inject 100 weaning s with alamycin la 10 cc and 5 cc of dexameth, inject with alamycin again three days later and any of them still with a cough got a third shot of both injections. It was some pain in the ass and the pocket but it did work. We didn't lose any. Now if there's any hint of a cough we go in with a shot of alamycin and dex straight away, keeps things under control.
    I'm considering putting in space sheeting on the gables next summer to help the airflow. I can't open the doors with the crows...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭PatQfarmer


    melly wrote: »
    I'm considering putting in space sheeting on the gables next summer to help the airflow. I can't open the doors with the crows...

    I did the same with an older shed roof this year. Raised every third run of sheeting on battens. Hugely improved air-flow, with no draughts.
    Simple job, 60'x54' L2 shed cost was €500 finished.
    No moisture on cattle's backs anymore:)


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