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100% Ai or stock bull mop up

  • 09-12-2012 8:45pm
    #1
    case 956
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭


    do ye use all AI or use a stock bull to clean up and so what breed bull in a dairy herd


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  • #2
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    hasnt been a bull here in 27 years


  • #3
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Have a nice limousin that we use for cleaning up after AI, all good calves from him so far. Works well for our all year around calving system, your not breeding replacement dairy calves out of the cows that aren't as fertile. However come the end of quotas and when I'm 100% focused on milk output I'll probably have less tolerance for problematic cows and just cull them, and I need to rare more replacements, so not too sure if I'll hang onto him.


  • #4
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    All AI (but this may change!)


  • #5
    stanflt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭stanflt


    use a stock bull to mop up- but bull has to be as good as an ai straw

    ie 3gen ex ebi+200 +150kg milk +15kg fat +15kg prot +.10fat +.10prot


  • #6
    grumpyfarmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭grumpyfarmer


    100% ai here too only down side is the time it takes up on heat detection coming near the end of the breeding season when there is very little activity..


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  • #7
    tismesoitis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    same as just do it 100% ai but have kept a good limo (arita ben x mas du clo) for the last 3 weeks next spring. suckler herd here btw.


  • #8
    Richk2012
    Closed Accounts Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Richk2012


    All A.I .

    If a cow wont hold on her 3rd insemination she is not bred again .

    How many times will you AI a cow , and then what is the next step , a stockbull or the gate ???


  • #9
    1chippy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    limo stock bull here. ai first round char, sim and bb on suitable cows, some get a repeat with ai otherwise just put with stock bull.


  • #10
    just do it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    1chippy wrote: »
    limo stock bull here. ai first round char, sim and bb on suitable cows, some get a repeat with ai otherwise just put with stock bull.

    Yeah I think this is the way to go. Otherwise too many empties making AI financially unsound....


  • #11
    jimmy G M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    2 x 5 star char bulls here, Suckler herd. Too much time/hassle with bringing mainstream cows in for AI. Better conception rates also.

    AI for heifers and selected cows.


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  • #12
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    100% AI


  • #13
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    use 2 beef bulls to mop up.wont use fr bulls to mop up anymore as those late fr heifers are too much hassle and hard to make bulling weights


  • #14
    case 5150
    Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭case 5150


    keep going wrote: »
    use 2 beef bulls to mop up.wont use fr bulls to mop up anymore as those late fr heifers are too much hassle and hard to make bulling weights


    what breed of bulls used to mop up and how long u use AI for on cows and Heifers


  • #15
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    case 5150 wrote: »
    what breed of bulls used to mop up and how long u use AI for on cows and Heifers
    week to 10 days AI with the heifers and then AA or AU for 4 weeks then both of them home to run with the cows for around a month-one by day and one by night.6 weeks AI for the cows first


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