Can anyone settle a bet for me

UrbanSea

Hello all.

I have a bet for the easiest tenner I'll ever make with a friend of mine here who's studying equine science. He reckons Galileo is standing at 22k this year :pac: I told him it was 300 and he says that Frankel is the most expensive in the UK and Ireland. I know it's listed as private but can anyone settle this argument.

Thank you

SRFC

Think he stands for 250k a go and frankel is 125k.

ft9

Your friend is wrong.

Shane732

Was this bet made in the pub by any chance?

mark renton

Think u might have gambling issues urbansea

UrbanSea

Shane732 wrote: »

Was this bet made in the pub by any chance?

I was quietly enjoying a nice crate prior to having a rendezvous with my pals in town. The lad who said it was at the house he was giving me a lift.

john47832 wrote: »

Think u might have gambling issues urbansea

Do not. It was he who suggested the bet, I was just celebrating my biggest ever win, 500 euro fourfold-Zambia under 17 girl's to win, Money Maker at Lucksin, T3 7.03 Romford and Italy to beat Brazil virtual soccer. Couldn't see any getting done

mark renton

Virtual soccer, girls under 17's

Cant see this ending well, I have a friend in GA, pm me if ye ever need his number

UrbanSea

I may have been sarcastic

mark renton

Me too!!!

UrbanSea

Haha I thought you were serious. I appreciated your concern though :pac:

BQQ

rofl, the sire of Frankel standing for 22k ??:eek:

Your friend needs to seriously hit the books if he wants to pass that course. :pac:

Harry Angstrom

UrbanSea wrote: »

Hello all.

I have a bet for the easiest tenner I'll ever make with a friend of mine here who's studying equine science. He reckons Galileo is standing at 22k this year :pac: I told him it was 300 and he says that Frankel is the most expensive in the UK and Ireland. I know it's listed as private but can anyone settle this argument.

Thank you

22k for a visit to Galileo??

I reckon your buddy can strike off his chances of ever getting a job with Coolmore if/when he graduates

cack_handed

The chap isn't as wrong as people hear assume, as Galileo may once indeed have had a stud value close enough to 22k. That was back when Jim Bolger started sending all his mares to be covered & produced gems like New Approach & Teofilio, made himself millions & pushed Galileo's fee up to where it is now. Shows the true genius of Bolger & the fact that coolmore dont know it all - think of all the great horses they missed out on by initially underestimating how good Galileo would be!

Overthelast

UrbanSea wrote: »

Hello all.

I have a bet for the easiest tenner I'll ever make with a friend of mine here who's studying equine science. He reckons Galileo is standing at 22k this year :pac: I told him it was 300 and he says that Frankel is the most expensive in the UK and Ireland. I know it's listed as private but can anyone settle this argument.

Thank you

Frankle £125k, which was made public a month or so ago. Galileo marked "private", but mooted at €300k. Hard to verify that figure but wouldnt be surprised given how successful he has been at stud and with an unproven stallion in frankle commanding £125k, this adds credibility to that €300k figure. So there should be no doubt as to the most expensive sire in irl/ uk. The only question that remains to be answered is how you intend to spend that €10?!

Slattsy

You'll never win that bet.

hucklebuck

Slattsy wrote: »

You'll never win that bet.

He should get his mate to ring Coolmore and tell them he will give them 25k for a cover.

Slattsy

hucklebuck wrote: »

He should get his mate to ring Coolmore and tell them he will give them 25k for a cover.

Ha. And ask if he can pay it in monthly installments over 12 years.

faoile@n

cack_handed wrote: »

The chap isn't as wrong as people hear assume, as Galileo may once indeed have had a stud value close enough to 22k. That was back when Jim Bolger started sending all his mares to be covered & produced gems like New Approach & Teofilio, made himself millions & pushed Galileo's fee up to where it is now. Shows the true genius of Bolger & the fact that coolmore dont know it all - think of all the great horses they missed out on by initially underestimating how good Galileo would be!

Coolmore never underestimated Galileo.

Galileo was retired to Stud for 50k. This was and still is today a reasonable sum to price a horse of his ability going to stud. The reason you put a reasonably low valuation is to entice breeders to send mares to an unproven stallion. Montjeu was initially priced at a similar fee as has nearly every stallion Coolmore have retired.

Jim Bolger sent multiple mares to Galileo for this very reason

Urban Galileos current cost at stud is reputed to cost in the region of €300k+ but it is a private fee and it will not be published anywhere.

Below is his published fee since he retired.

YEAR STUD FEE COUNTRY STANDING

2013 Private IRE Coolmore Stud
2012 Private IRE Coolmore Stud
2011 Private IRE Coolmore Stud
2010 Private IRE Coolmore Stud
2009 Private IRE Coolmore Stud
2008 Private IRE Coolmore Stud
2007 EUR 150,000 IRE Coolmore Stud
2006 EUR 37,500 IRE Coolmore Stud
2005 EUR 37,500 IRE Coolmore Stud
2004 EUR 40,000 IRE Coolmore Stud
2003 EUR 60,000 IRE Coolmore Stud
2002 IRP 50,000 IRE Coolmore Stud

cack_handed

Informative post faoile@an. I am very much a novice on breeding rights & stud values, so happy to be corrected on that point. Still, I'm not minded to downplay the initiative Bolger showed in sending his mares to be covered by Galileo, obviously it was the low price that attracted him partly but it was a gamble too that if it hadn't come off would probably have broken him. Seem to remember Bolger had taken a punt on an earlier Coolmore stallion (Last Tycoon maybe?) that cost him a fortune & left him in the doldrums for a few years. I wonder if Bolger hadn't come up with the idea of using Galileo, what precisely his stud fee would be now?

UrbanSea

That's going to do my nut in I can't remember the name of that stallion. Was it not an American one? (or American bred)

Nulty

It was the Last Tycoon. I think I remember the name from that doco done on Bolger a coupla years ago