Leica 8x42 ultravid BR

German pointer

I am thinking of getting a pair of these, does any of ye have them and if so what do ye think of them particularly in low light conditions. Any help welcome.

Failing that what would ye recomend as a good low light pair of binos for under a grand

Constab2

Don't have the Ultravid but the Geovid 8x42 BRF-Y truly outstanding Binos in all light the built in range finder is spot on never go anywhere hunting without them.

zeissman

I also have the geovid 8x42 and they are excellent.
I had the older trinovid 7x42 binoculars before that and they were great also so Im sure the ultravid would also be good.
A mate bought the new zeiss conquest 8x42 hd binoculars and is very happy with them so they might be worth a look.
www.optics-trade.eu are selling them for 760 euro.
What price are the leicas you are looking at ?

rowa

I have a pair of leica 10x42's and they are truly excellent, really good in bad light, swarovski's are supposed to be every bit as good but seem to be a lot heavier imho.

German pointer

zeissman wrote: »

I also have the geovid 8x42 and they are excellent.
I had the older trinovid 7x42 binoculars before that and they were great also so Im sure the ultravid would also be good.
A mate bought the new zeiss conquest 8x42 hd binoculars and is very happy with them so they might be worth a look.
www.optics-trade.eu are selling them for 760 euro.
What price are the leicas you are looking at ?

They are €995 Just saw them in a shop window I have not called in yet. Waiting till the sales to see what he really wants for them

German pointer

What do ye think of the Kapps range in 8x42 10x42 or 8 x56

rowa

http://www.connscameras.ie/binoculars-!431-cat.html

http://www.connscameras.ie/full-size-binoculars-!40-cat.html

zeissman

German pointer wrote: »

They are €995 Just saw them in a shop window I have not called in yet. Waiting till the sales to see what he really wants for them

Going by that last post by rowa it must be the trinovid and not the ultravid
binoculars that your looking at.
I had the old model trinovids and they were excellent
Great optics and great build quality.
995 euro is a good price.

German pointer

zeissman wrote: »

Going by that last post by rowa it must be the trinovid and not the ultravid
binoculars that your looking at.
I had the old model trinovids and they were excellent
Great optics and great build quality.
995 euro is a good price.

Deffo Ultravid BR 8x42 (could be secondhand) as I said I did not go into shop yet, but they and the box looked new in window

zeissman

German pointer wrote: »

Deffo Ultravid BR 8x42 (could be secondhand) as I said I did not go into shop yet, but they and the box looked new in window

Go in and check them out.
Could be a real bargain at that price.

German pointer

zeissman wrote: »

Go in and check them out.
Could be a real bargain at that price.

Your right I might not wait till the sales:D

rowa

German pointer wrote: »

Deffo Ultravid BR 8x42 (could be secondhand) as I said I did not go into shop yet, but they and the box looked new in window

is this them ?

http://www.connscameras.ie/leica-trinovid-42/p-4022243400085pd.html

German pointer

zeissman wrote: »

Go in and check them out.
Could be a real bargain at that price.

rowa wrote: »

is this them ?

http://www.connscameras.ie/leica-trinovid-42/p-4022243400085pd.html

No deffo ULTRAVID


Checked that shop window early this morning and they are 8x42 Ultravid BR I will go back when they open and see if they are new or used but as I said they and the box look new

German pointer

The catch:

They are secondhand with small signs of use on the body but the glass looks to be OK. Is a secondhand pair worth €995?

rowa

German pointer wrote: »

The catch:

They are secondhand with small signs of use on the body but the glass looks to be OK. Is a secondhand pair worth €995?

Why not get a brand new pair of the ones in the link i posted above for the same money complete with warranty etc ?

German pointer

rowa wrote: »

Why not get a brand new pair of the ones in the link i posted above for the same money complete with warranty etc ?

I might just do that as I looked up some reviews and there seems to be sweet fanny all in difference between the 2 except the price

De_Tomaso

German pointer wrote: »

What do ye think of the Kapps range in 8x42 10x42 or 8 x56

I would not really mention this binos in the same thread as Leica. They are OK for sub 400€ binoculars, but they can not be compared with German glass.

The new Zeiss Conquest HD are really nice, especially in this price range where no one else is offering binoculars with the same level of quality at the moment.

In top class however I think that in day time Leica Ultravid have the nicest picture out of all three big names (Zeiss and Swaro) and new Zeiss Victory HT are best in low light.

German pointer

De_Tomaso wrote: »

I would not really mention this binos in the same thread as Leica. They are OK for sub 400€ binoculars, but they can not be compared with German glass.

The new Zeiss Conquest HD are really nice, especially in this price range where no one else is offering binoculars with the same level of quality at the moment.

In top class however I think that in day time Leica Ultravid have the nicest picture out of all three big names (Zeiss and Swaro) and new Zeiss Victory HT are best in low light.

Thanks for that but I only have a grand

zeissman

German pointer wrote: »

Thanks for that but I only have a grand

Iwould buy the zeiss conquest hd 8x42 .
760 euro from De tomaso.
www.optics-trade.eu

German pointer

zeissman wrote: »

Iwould buy the zeiss conquest hd 8x42 .
760 euro from De tomaso.
www.optics-trade.eu

Which do you think is better in lowlight the zeiss conquest8x42 hd or the Leica Trinovid8x42

zeissman

German pointer wrote: »

Which do you think is better in lowlight the zeiss conquest8x42 hd or the Leica Trinovid8x42

I dont know to be honest but I think there would be very little difference.
Contact De-tomaso he should know.

De_Tomaso

Leica Trinovid is optically better than Zeiss Conquest HD but it is also far more expensive. There is more than 400€ price difference and this binoculars can not be directly compared.

If you are really interested only in low light performance than go with Minox HG 8x56, Zeiss Conquest 8x50/56 or something similar with 56mm lens in this price range.

German pointer

De_Tomaso wrote: »

Leica Trinovid is optically better than Zeiss Conquest HD but it is also far more expensive. There is more than 400€ price difference and this binoculars can not be directly compared.

If you are really interested only in low light performance than go with Minox HG 8x56, Zeiss Conquest 8x50/56 or something similar with 56mm lens in this price range.

I can get the Trinvoid 8x42 at €995 (in an Irish shop)
the Zeiss Conquest 8x42 HD is €760 (internet)
or a Leica Ultravid 8x42 for €935 (Second hand an Irish shop)
The Minox HG 8x56 BR for €1079 (internet But would these be too bulky for stalking?)

My money limit is a grand and I want them for stalking.
I am using Stiner SkyHawk 10x42 at the moment and a fair glass that they are I feel that I am not getting the last shot in the twilight with them.
I do my stalking about 50/50 daytime or lastlight/firstlight.
I am tring to get the best possible all rounder for the budget I have. If the Leica is better then the Zeiss then I will go the extra €235 for the better glass and as it is an Irish seller rather then a non Irish internet shop.

Thanks to you and the other lads for their help and bearing with me as this will be hopefully the last pair I ever need to buy.

thelurcher

De_Tomaso wrote: »

I would not really mention this binos in the same thread as Leica. They are OK for sub 400€ binoculars, but they can not be compared with German glass.

The new Zeiss Conquest HD are really nice, especially in this price range where no one else is offering binoculars with the same level of quality at the moment.

In top class however I think that in day time Leica Ultravid have the nicest picture out of all three big names (Zeiss and Swaro) and new Zeiss Victory HT are best in low light.

Kaps are German - though I will grant you that the glass may not be?

A few times I've been tempted to go for one of the €1k range of binos but I personally just don't see how they're worth so much more than the likes of Kaps.
By the time you're up on the hill and the lenses have gotten a few drops of rain, then even minuscule bits of dust and dirt - the extra €600 doesn't really add much to what you can see in my opinion?

I do however think that some of the cheaper brands are worth avoiding - after sustained viewing through some I get motion sickness.

Where ever the Kaps are made or where their components come from I for one would recommend them. I also see that the've some out with a new model.
PSE Composites can order them in AFAIK.

De_Tomaso

thelurcher wrote: »

Kaps are German - though I will grant you that the glass may not be?

A few times I've been tempted to go for one of the €1k range of binos but I personally just don't see how they're worth so much more than the likes of Kaps.
By the time you're up on the hill and the lenses have gotten a few drops of rain, then even minuscule bits of dust and dirt - the extra €600 doesn't really add much to what you can see in my opinion?

I do however think that some of the cheaper brands are worth avoiding - after sustained viewing through some I get motion sickness.

Where ever the Kaps are made or where their components come from I for one would recommend them. I also see that the've some out with a new model.
PSE Composites can order them in AFAIK.

Kaps riflescopes are Made in Germany, however their binos are not. They are not even assembled in Germany, they just have the Kaps logo on them. And still they are good purchase for less than 400€.

If spending 1000€ or 2000€ on binoculars is worthy or not is a personal choice, however I personally think that there are not many binos under 700€ that are worth buying.

zeissman

If the leica have better optics than the zeiss Id also pay the 235 extra.
Id also get the 8x42 model as 8x50 and 8x56 binoculars are too heavy and bulky for stalking.

German pointer

Job done.

I bought the Leicas today and should have them delivered tomorrow:D:D. Can't wait till they arrive and I have a full weekend of stalking planned so they should get a good test then.

Thanks to all the lads who had an input into this and helping me

thelurcher

De_Tomaso wrote: »

Kaps riflescopes are Made in Germany, however their binos are not. They are not even assembled in Germany, they just have the Kaps logo on them. And still they are good purchase for less than 400€.

If spending 1000€ or 2000€ on binoculars is worthy or not is a personal choice, however I personally think that there are not many binos under 700€ that are worth buying.

You sell binos don't you? What do you recommend for around the €700?

You don't know who makes the Kaps do you - and is any other optics company selling them cheaper under a different brand? I wouldn't mind getting a second pair for the pickup if the price was right. thanks.

De_Tomaso

For around 700€ I can point out 2 really good products (given the price range).

For stalking, birding, etc. : Zeiss Conquest HD 8x42

For low light use: Docter Nobilem 7x50

I have seen similar products than Kaps binoculars on some fairs but I don't know who else is re-branding them. My general advice what to buy in this price class would be Hawke Frontier ED 8x43.

German pointer

They arrived today. :D First impressions looking out the window is how bright they are compared to the Stiner. As said will give them goood test over the weekend. One minor complaint is I got the glasses and a carry case but only one neck strap between them.

zeissman

German pointer wrote: »

They arrived today. :D First impressions looking out the window is how bright they are compared to the Stiner. As said will give them goood test over the weekend. One minor complaint is I got the glasses and a carry case but only one neck strap between them.

All the leicas seem to come like that.
You just put the strap on the binoculars then when you put them in the case you leave the strap out and carry them with it.

German pointer

zeissman wrote: »

All the leicas seem to come like that.
You just put the strap on the binoculars then when you put them in the case you leave the strap out and carry them with it.

That's what I have done. thanks

German pointer

I was out today and thought the new binos were broken as while I could see into shadow and dark corners, there was no deer in the picture;)

All jokes aside, I must say they are everthing I expected and I am not dissapointed with them. A tree line, ranged with the rangefinder at 653 yards away: when I was there last week I could just about see a deer in it but only when directed by the other lad with me, I was using the Stiner 10x42 Sky Hawk.Today with the new Leica's I could nearly count the blades of grass on the other side of the same tree line from the same spot. A fantastic product.

Now if only I could find where the deer are hiding

Vizzy

German pointer wrote: »

I was out today and thought the new binos were broken as while I could see into shadow and dark corners, there was no deer in the picture;)

All jokes aside, I must say they are everthing I expected and I am not dissapointed with them. A tree line, ranged with the rangefinder at 653 yards away: when I was there last week I could just about see a deer in it but only when directed by the other lad with me, I was using the Stiner 10x42 Sky Hawk.Today with the new Leica's I could nearly count the blades of grass on the other side of the same tree line from the same spot. A fantastic product.

Now if only I could find where the deer are hiding

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