Commercial glanza

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Is it possible to commercialize a toyota glanza and get cheap tax and insurance?

Drummerboy08

How much is it to tax a 1.3?

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Drummerboy08 wrote: »

How much is it to tax a 1.3?

about 300 for a five seater car.

paddy147

Nia Ugly Gourmet wrote: »

Is it possible to commercialize a toyota glanza and get cheap tax and insurance?

You will be defrauding the state if you are not using it for commercial purposes.

If you cant afford the insurance and tax for the car,then you cant afford to have the car.


Simple as that

Drummerboy08

Nia Ugly Gourmet wrote: »

about 300 for a five seater car.

So it would be €33 per year more expensive to tax as a commercial.

Insurance wouldn't be any cheaper either, as it would still be a private policy. Most insurers won't offer a commercial policy unless it's for business use.

Hailhail1967

Hardly going to be worth it no matter the legal situation. Utter madness.

Move on, nothing to see here.

Toyotafanboi

my glanza is 358 a year tax im pretty sure (pre budget :P)

i wouldn't bastardise one further by making it a commercial. the ballache you give yourself wouldn't be worth the very few pound you save.

as regards insurance, once you mention "glanza" down the phone its hard enough to get a price, never mind "glanza retro van conversion".

if you wanted to do something like that i'd probably just get an irish starlet van and put a kit on it. even that'd be naff enough though.

Hailhail1967

^^^ There is hardly any problem getting glanza quotes is there? Only curios here I haven't tried for a quote

Toyotafanboi

Hailhail1967 wrote: »

^^^ There is hardly any problem getting glanza quotes is there? Only curios here I haven't tried for a quote

unless your in your late twenties or older with a good bit of no claims bonus etc,then yeah, there will more likely than not be trouble getting quotes.

Hailhail1967

Jesus every young fella in the country is driving glanzas they must be handy enough to insure surely.

On the scale of modified cars i'm sure they are pretty low on insurance side of things.

Toyotafanboi

Hailhail1967 wrote: »

Jesus every young fella in the country is driving glanzas they must be handy enough to insure surely.

On the scale of modified cars i'm sure they are pretty low on insurance side of things.

any young lad driving one is paying through the nose for it. or has it illegitimately declared as non turbo etc to their insurance company.

they aren't going to blow your mind with power etc. but they are very nippy and very light and a bit of a danger in the wrong hands which is long proven.

Hailhail1967

^^^ Ya I guess your right. The "not on book as turbo" probably accounts for a lot. I have drove a few over the years alright.

Gonna get a quote for insurance just for a giggle now :-) Will report when I get it.

I'll make a guess at €350 tpft :-) Take that teenagers

dave1982

paddy147 wrote: »

You will be defrauding the state if you are not using it for commercial purposes.

If you cant afford the insurance and tax for the car,then you cant afford to have the car.


Simple as that

**** the state they are fcuking us over every turn, If he can get his car taxed commercial.I'd rather see the money in his pocket than Ednas

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Yeah well I was more questioning was it big enough to constitute a van. But if I were to do it how hard would it be and would it be worth it? I mean I do know one lad that on his Mothers policy with a 1.5 Nissan Almera he can get insurance for about 1000.

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Hailhail1967 wrote: »

Hardly going to be worth it no matter the legal situation. Utter madness.

Move on, nothing to see here.

Once you see how much insurance is for young people on cars like Glanza's you will understand why I would like to bring it down a bit! And by the way if you have nothing useful to contribute in regards to the matter we don't need to hear.

Drummerboy08

Sure try it and find out. Post back here with your experiences.

Hailhail1967

Nia Ugly Gourmet wrote: »

Once you see how much insurance is for young people on cars like Glanza's you will understand why I would like to bring it down a bit! And by the way if you have nothing useful to contribute in regards to the matter we don't need to hear.

Well while I have no incline to line insurance company pockets or the governments for that matter, you will save, around €100 on tax. I have nothing wrong in principal with that, **** the money grabbing government but its utter madness to do it to a glanza. False economy BIG TIME. Its worth it for a supra maybe but you still are leaving yourself open to hassle from the guards.

You have to sign a form in front of the guards to say you will use it only as commercial (have heard of this not being asked for), you have to have a vat registration number (pps number). You have to get the van doe'd too. You have to have a certain floor space available (you need to check with your local office), back windows tinted, seat belt holes welded up.

Is all this really worth it for €100? if anything it will make your insurance increase because you will still have a private policy and they are not stupid unfortunately.

All that said, it makes no odds, if you can't afford a car then you can't afford it, so tough. I paid €3,200 on a 1.1 fiesta my first year insurance. The reasons its expensive for youngsters on the likes of Glanzas is most shouldn't be driving them to start with. It all makes sense.

Toyotafanboi

Hailhail1967 wrote: »

All that said, it makes no odds, if you can't afford a car then you can't afford it, so tough. I paid €3,200 on a 1.1 fiesta my first year insurance. The reasons its expensive for youngsters on the likes of Glanzas is most shouldn't be driving them to start with. It all makes sense.

pretty much exactly that.

when i was 17 i paid 3500 for a years tpft on a daihatsu cuore. my heart bled for a glanza every time i seen one, but it just wasn't achievable.

i was 22 this year, sold my 2003 2.0D Vectra to "live my motoring lust" and buy a glanza. picked up an un messed with fresh enough import. only paying €550 on insurance with liberty and although i love its driving character, its a bit like meeting your hero's, i'm delighted i have it, but after wanting one for so long its actually not all that amazing a car.

very noisy, comfort is awful, would not like to be in a crash in it either and even being a toyota it demands tlc, epic attention from the gardai...

do you really want a glanza?

paddy147

dave1982 wrote: »

**** the state they are fcuking us over every turn, If he can get his car taxed commercial.I'd rather see the money in his pocket than Ednas

And then the state (gardai and customs officers) will have the car off the lad if its been usesd for private/domestic pleasure


Commercialising it just to avoid private tax and to use it as a private car is fraud.

If you cant afford to correctly insure and tax a glanza for private use then you cant afford to own a glanza...simple as that.

paddy147

I cant imagine what the feeling would be like to watch/see the gardai and customs officers order a driver out of their car,sieze it and have it towed away/scrapped,because the owner was commiting fraud.


It would be even worse and more humiliating for the owner if they had their mother,their father or their girlfriend/friend in the car with with them too.


And lets not forget the conviction and large fine from Gardai/Customs Officers/Revenue for evading paying the correct tax on the car.

paddy147

Nia Ugly Gourmet wrote: »

Once you see how much insurance is for young people on cars like Glanza's you will understand why I would like to bring it down a bit!.And by the way if you have nothing useful to contribute in regards to the matter we don't need to hear.

Have you read your opening post???

Bit of a cheek to say that to people when you are trying to find ways to commit fraud and defraud the state in the proocess.





But by all means knock yourself out..........its your car that will be taken away from you at a garda/customs checkpoint ...(or in a tax office when you go to retax it as a commercial and cant give the correct information and/or vat number).Then its bye bye car and it will be made into a 4 foot x 4 foot x 4 foot block of scrap

Oh and then a court appearence,conviction and hefty fine for evading tax and commiting fraud.

paddy147

Hailhail1967 wrote: »

Well while I have no incline to line insurance company pockets or the governments for that matter, you will save, around €100 on tax. I have nothing wrong in principal with that, **** the money grabbing government but its utter madness to do it to a glanza. False economy BIG TIME. Its worth it for a supra maybe but you still are leaving yourself open to hassle from the guards.

You have to sign a form in front of the guards to say you will use it only as commercial (have heard of this not being asked for), you have to have a vat registration number (pps number). You have to get the van doe'd too. You have to have a certain floor space available (you need to check with your local office), back windows tinted, seat belt holes welded up.

Is all this really worth it for €100? if anything it will make your insurance increase because you will still have a private policy and they are not stupid unfortunately.
All that said, it makes no odds, if you can't afford a car then you can't afford it, so tough. I paid €3,200 on a 1.1 fiesta my first year insurance. The reasons its expensive for youngsters on the likes of Glanzas is most shouldn't be driving them to start with. It all makes sense.

I dont think the OP really wants to read/hear that,even though you speak the truth..............and are giving him the cold hard facts.;)

JimmyCrackCorn

You have to sign a form in front of the guards to say you will use it only as commercial (have heard of this not being asked for), you have to have a vat registration number (pps number). You have to get the van doe'd too. You have to have a certain floor space available (you need to check with your local office), back windows tinted, seat belt holes welded up.

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