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New LP/DL fees

  • 07-12-2012 3:28pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭


    Seen the update on the RSA website. Can't believe they will now charge €35 to add a category to an existing licence! Do the b*stards not get enough in theory tests, driving tests, books, CD-Roms etc... :mad:


    New Driving Licences and Renewals €55

    Three Year Licence (Age or Medical Grounds) €35

    One Year Licence (Medical Grounds) €25

    Replacement or Duplicate Licence €35

    Exchange a Foreign Licence €55

    All Learner Permits €35 (So if you factor in Photos, eyesight report, theory test etc.. It will now cost a learner the guts of €100 to get a LP and that's before they even do the EDT!):mad:

    Replacement or Duplicate Learner Permit €35


    I will admit that the card looks a million times better than the current paper licence :rolleyes:
    Although I feel real sorry for people starting out especially given the economic situation.

    http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Licensed-Drivers/Driving-licence/Driving-Licence-Changes-January-2013/


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭shanagarry


    It's very annoying that they're not allowing people to convert to the card licence before expiry. And particularly annoying for me as I just passed my test today so I have to decide between paying €35 and having to drive as a learner until 19 Jan or pay €55 and not have to spend 10 years explaining to suspicious foreign police that the tatty pink piece of paper really does permit me to drive on their roads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭DylanII


    shanagarry wrote: »
    It's very annoying that they're not allowing people to convert to the card licence before expiry. And particularly annoying for me as I just passed my test today so I have to decide between paying €35 and having to drive as a learner until 19 Jan or pay €55 and not have to spend 10 years explaining to suspicious foreign police that the tatty pink piece of paper really does permit me to drive on their roads.

    I think you're still allowed to drive on your own before you actually get the licence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    DylanII wrote: »
    I think you're still allowed to drive on your own before you actually get the licence.

    Until he has his full licence in his hand he's still considered a learner. Personally I'd hold out for the new card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    Seen the update on the RSA website. Can't believe they will now charge €35 to add a category to an existing licence! Do the b*stards not get enough in theory tests, driving tests, books, CD-Roms etc... :mad:

    All Learner Permits €35 (So if you factor in Photos, eyesight report, theory test etc.. It will now cost a learner the guts of €100 to get a LP and that's before they even do the EDT!):mad:

    From what I understand, this is the first time the licensing authorities have been self-sufficient in terms of funding (ie. not making a loss / being subsidized by the government). There's also been no price increase on licenses in the last 11 years.

    It's also clearly going to need an investment to switch over. New machines to make/print these cards have to be bought, and there's more cost involved than printing on a piece of paper.

    People forget that driving is a privilege. You're not entitled to a license, and economically/financially it just doesn't make sense to continue subsidizing driving licenses while the country is in a hole.

    Even with the increased license cost, in terms of learning & testing, Ireland is still quite cheap compared to other countries.

    If you ask me, it's perfectly fair for these costs to be passed on to the end user. And, €5.50/year for the 10 year license isn't exactly end of the world, particularly for a quality license.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    If you ask me, it's perfectly fair for these costs to be passed on to the end user. And, €5.50/year for the 10 year license isn't exactly end of the world, particularly for a quality license.

    True but these days alot of familys don't even have €5.50 to spare.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    True but these days alot of familys don't even have €5.50 to spare.

    Moot point. If you don't have €5.50 to spare, you can't afford to drive. In all aspects of running a car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    Moot point. If you don't have €5.50 to spare, you can't afford to drive. In all aspects of running a car.

    Tell that to people in the arse of no-where with no public transport available. Can't afford a car then tough, you're now a hermit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    Tell that to people in the arse of no-where with no public transport available. Can't afford a car then tough, you're now a hermit.

    I'm not really sure what point you're trying to argue, but most definitely you may be missing my point. In the broad scheme of things, €5.50 a year is nothing in terms of general motoring costs.
    • It's 1/10th the price of an NCT (which is either yearly or every second year)
    • It's the price of just over 3L of petrol, which on average, might not even go 30 miles.
    • It's not even 1/200th of the cost of yearly insurance (presumed €1000 as an average)
    • It's also about 1/8th the hourly rate a mechanic charges for labour, without taking the cost of replacement parts into account.

    If things are that tight that you don't have €5.50 to spare a year, you most definitely can not afford to run a car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    I'm not really sure what point you're trying to argue, but most definitely you may be missing my point. In the broad scheme of things, €5.50 a year is nothing in terms of general motoring costs.
    • It's 1/10th the price of an NCT (which is either yearly or every second year)
    • It's the price of just over 3L of petrol, which on average, might not even go 30 miles.
    • It's not even 1/200th of the cost of yearly insurance (presumed €1000 as an average)
    • It's also about 1/8th the hourly rate a mechanic charges for labour, without taking the cost of replacement parts into account.

    If things are that tight that you don't have €5.50 to spare a year, you most definitely can not afford to run a car.

    Well to renew your licence in the UK costs £20 every 10 years and for those of us who need a Drivers digi card to drive here in Ireland the cost of renewal is €50 compared to NI £19.
    I also have an ADR licence which is a credit card size with my name& pic on it along with a hologram for security purposes yet to renew it every 5 years is only €15.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    I'm not really sure what point you're trying to argue, but most definitely you may be missing my point. In the broad scheme of things, €5.50 a year is nothing in terms of general motoring costs.
    • It's 1/10th the price of an NCT (which is either yearly or every second year)
    • It's the price of just over 3L of petrol, which on average, might not even go 30 miles.
    • It's not even 1/200th of the cost of yearly insurance (presumed €1000 as an average)
    • It's also about 1/8th the hourly rate a mechanic charges for labour, without taking the cost of replacement parts into account.
    If things are that tight that you don't have €5.50 to spare a year, you most definitely can not afford to run a car.

    I understand your point but all I'm trying to say is that it's an increase people could do without these days. €5.50 is nothing to me but too a family it's a few bits of shopping for the week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    Faith+1 wrote: »
    I understand your point but all I'm trying to say is that it's an increase people could do without these days. €5.50 is nothing to me but too a family it's a few bits of shopping for the week.

    It'd happen one way or another, though. The country is broke and can't afford this subsidy anymore. If the cost wasn't passed on to the end user, it'd have to be made up in taxes or somewhere else. This is the fairest and most straight forward way.

    €5.50/year works out at 10c a week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭donkey balls


    It'd happen one way or another, though. The country is broke and can't afford this subsidy anymore. If the cost wasn't passed on to the end user, it'd have to be made up in taxes or somewhere else. This is the fairest and most straight forward way.

    €5.50/year works out at 10c a week.

    Ok so the state cannot afford to subsidise the issuing of a drivers licence at the current cost of €20/25, I mean it is a piece of paper with your photo and cat of vehicles you can drive on it how or why should it cost more than the current price?:mad:
    As I mentioned in an earlier post the cost of manufacturing these new licences should not jump up by nearly 100% still Rip off Ireland going on during a recession.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    Ok so the state cannot afford to subsidise the issuing of a drivers licence at the current cost of €20/25, I mean it is a piece of paper with your photo and cat of vehicles you can drive on it how or why should it cost more than the current price?:mad:
    As I mentioned in an earlier post the cost of manufacturing these new licences should not jump up by nearly 100% still Rip off Ireland going on during a recession.

    My thoughts exactly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    What a money making racket, luckily I've escaped so far. €35 for a Learner permit that's crazy, €15 is enough whether you get it for a year or two regardless how long you have it for! And then if you needed to get a 2nd/3rd one like or have it for what ever number of months 6+ mad having to pay €15 every time never mind €35!

    :eek:

    The full license is €25 for 10 years at the moment and they introducing it for one year for that price (€25)??? €55 For a full license I assume be for 10 years mad like. And doesn't make sense Rip off Ireland more like! €35/€55 euro for the other licenses crazy. They would swear we are made of money! :/

    Learning to drive and lessons costs a fair bit why add €35 onto all that like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,074 ✭✭✭finnharpsboy


    says on the rsa website "Changes to existing Licences/Permits..... €35

    does that mean if i change address and want it updated on my licence thats €35.00 ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    says on the rsa website "Changes to existing Licences/Permits..... €35

    does that mean if i change address and want it updated on my licence thats €35.00 ?

    I would assume so yes.


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