Chaos Marines in 6th Ed

theWARCHEST

Hey guys,

I've been out of the game for about two years and I'm looking to get back into it. I wanted to hear some opinions on the new Chaos codex that came out while I was away. What got better? What got worse? What's a real bargain pointswise?

Thanks a mil

SimLife

Depends who you listen to. Peoples opinions are very mixed. My opinions

+ Lords got better
+ New Chaos techmarine guy is good
+ Typhus and plague zombies are great
+ Heldrake is excellent with a baleflamer, can simply delete MEQs units off the board, and pretty resiliant, others would complain that it's too expensive and the opposite of what I think
+ Bikes with mark of nurgle are incredibly cheap for their points relative to their toughness
+ Spawn are looking like an auto-include now. Very fast and they hit hard.
+ Noise Marines are a great mid-range shooting unit now

-Mutilators are pretty awful. People are claiming success with multiple, lone Mutilators though.
-Warp talons are decent but don't have grenades, which is odd for an assault unit with no ranged attacks.
- No drop pods. I don't mind this, as it means they aren't just Marines with spikes, but some might.

People dislike it because there aren't any obvious "I win." army to take. Its a decent book with a lot of options for army builds.

Nody

Basically Chaos marines have a successful melee army in a shooting game but this can only be achieved by very careful selection, minimize point spending on upgrades and selecting the appropiate units to run together. The most common mistake is people going bling bling on their squads and end up with to few boots on the ground thinking they can do the lifting. You also need to be careful how you mix units (non marked should be lead by marked to gain the benefits, filler characters to take challenges if you want to slaughter or vice versa etc.).

To the poster above; Mutilators are great if you take them in groups and send them all in as a distraction. Either your opponent spend a few rounds shooting heavy stuff at them to kill them (instead of the rest of your army that comes in right behind the Mutilators) or the Mutilators goes to town in melee in your opponents army and you can laugh and throw dice by the bucket killing his army via multicharges (to ensure you stay locked in combat).

Here's a few example armies all taken from YTTH which goes into more detail on Chaos then I ever could (at a very different tone then boards as a caution):
2000 Pts – Chaos Space Marines Roster

1 Herald of Slaanesh (HQ) [cd], 90 pts (Unholy Might)
1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh [cd] (S: Fleshshredder)

4 Flamers of Tzeentch (Elite) [cd], 92 pts

5 Plaguebearers of Nurgle (Troops) [cd], 75 pts

5 Plaguebearers of Nurgle (Troops) [cd], 75 pts

4 Screamers of Tzeentch (Fast) [cd], 100 pts (Unholy Might)

1 Seeker Cavalcade (Heavy) [cd], 40 pts
1 Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh [cd] (S: Fleshshredder)
1 Exalted Alluress [cd] (S: Soulscent)

1 Sorcerer, 65 pts (Bolt Pistol; Force Sword; Melta Bombs; Warlord)

4 Chaos Space Marines, 137 pts (Plasma gun)
1 Aspiring Champion (Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Close Combat Weapon)
1 Chaos Rhino (Combi-Boltgun; Havoc Launcher)

4 Chaos Space Marines, 137 pts (Plasma gun)
1 Aspiring Champion (Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Close Combat Weapon)
1 Chaos Rhino (Combi-Boltgun; Havoc Launcher)

4 Chaos Space Marines, 137 pts (Plasma gun)
1 Aspiring Champion (Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Close Combat Weapon)
1 Chaos Rhino (Combi-Boltgun; Havoc Launcher)

4 Chaos Space Marines, 137 pts (Plasma gun)
1 Aspiring Champion (Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Close Combat Weapon)
1 Chaos Rhino (Combi-Boltgun; Havoc Launcher)

9 Chaos Cultists, 55 pts (Heavy Stubber x1)
1 Cultist Champion

9 Chaos Cultists, 55 pts (Heavy Stubber x1)
1 Cultist Champion

1 Heldrake, 170 pts

1 Heldrake, 170 pts

4 Chaos Spawn, 120 pts

4 Havocs, 115 pts (Autocannon x4)
1 Aspiring Champion (Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Close Combat Weapon)

4 Havocs, 115 pts (Autocannon x4)
1 Aspiring Champion (Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Close Combat Weapon)

4 Havocs, 115 pts (Autocannon x4)
1 Aspiring Champion (Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Close Combat Weapon)

Total Roster Cost: 2000


2000 Pts – Chaos Space Marines Roster
1 Sorcerer, 80 pts (Force Axe; Melta Bombs; Power Maul x1; Warlord)

3 Mutilator, 183 pts (Mark of Nurgle)

3 Mutilator, 183 pts (Mark of Nurgle)

3 Mutilator, 183 pts (Mark of Nurgle)

19 Chaos Cultists, 100 pts (Flamer x2)
1 Cultist Champion

9 Chaos Cultists, 55 pts (Heavy Stubber x1)
1 Cultist Champion

9 Chaos Cultists, 55 pts (Heavy Stubber x1)
1 Cultist Champion

9 Chaos Cultists, 55 pts (Heavy Stubber x1)
1 Cultist Champion

3 Obliterator, 228 pts (Mark of Nurgle)

3 Obliterator, 228 pts (Mark of Nurgle)

3 Obliterator, 228 pts (Mark of Nurgle)

1 Big Mek (HQ) [Orks], 60 pts (Power Klaw)

30 Boyz (Troops) [Orks], 180 pts

30 Boyz (Troops) [Orks], 180 pts

Total Roster Cost: 1998


2000 Pts – Imperial Guard Roster
1 Lord Commissar, 90 pts (Melta Bombs; Power Fist; Warlord)

1 Infantry Platoon, 365 pts
4 Platoon Command Squad (Meltagun x4)
1 Platoon Commander
9 Infantry Squad (Flamer x1)
1 Sergeant (Melta Bombs)
9 Infantry Squad (Krak Grenades; Flamer x1)
1 Sergeant (Krak Grenades)
9 Infantry Squad
1 Sergeant (Melta Bombs)
9 Infantry Squad
1 Sergeant (Melta Bombs)
9 Infantry Squad (Krak Grenades)
1 Sergeant (Krak Grenades)

9 Veteran Squad, 100 pts (Meltagun x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant

1 Vendetta Gunship Squadron, 130 pts
1 Vendetta

1 Vendetta Gunship Squadron, 130 pts
1 Vendetta

1 Ordnance Battery, 75 pts
1 Griffon

1 Ordnance Battery, 75 pts
1 Griffon

1 Chaos Lord (HQ) [Chaos], 113 pts (Chainaxe x1; Melta Bombs; Power Fist x1; Gift of Mutation)

3 Mutilator (Elite) [Chaos], 183 pts (Mark of Nurgle)

18 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) [Chaos], 365 pts (Mark of Khorne; Icon of Wrath; Meltagun; Meltagun)
1 Aspiring Champion [Chaos] (Gift of Mutation; Melta Bombs; Bolt Pistol; Power Axe x1)

4 Chaos Spawn (Fast) [Chaos], 144 pts (Mark of Nurgle)

3 Obliterator (Heavy) [Chaos], 228 pts (Mark of Nurgle)

Total Roster Cost: 1998