Beef Data Programme - New

LivInt20

Anyone any info on this new scheme.

€400 per farm per year

LivInt20

Minister Simon Coveney:
"Beef - €25 million continued investment in Suckler Beef
While the Suckler cow scheme 2008-2012, has now come to an end, it has been invaluable in improving the quality of animals produced from the Suckler herd over the five year programme. The Minister said “I was anxious to build on this success and accordingly, I have allocated €10 million in 2013, financed from unspent Single Farm Payment Funds for a new support programme for Suckler beef farmers to participate in a new Beef Data Programme. When taken together with residual payments of €10 million under the Suckler Cow Welfare Scheme, this will amount to €20 million in direct payments to Suckler farmers in 2013. This programme will assist farmers in improving the genetic quality of Irish cattle and will maintain the data flow into ICBF in order to build further knowledge and more rapid progress in breeding and ultimately in profitability for farmers”. In addition, the sum of €5 million has been set aside to support the continuation for another year of the Beef Technology Adaptation Programme, a scheme that provides beef farmers with better information and improved skills to increase profitability on farms."

blue5000

It's a balls, first it was 80e per cow, then 40 per cow. Now we are down to 20e for 20 cows, whats next 10 euro for 10 cows? Simple simon would want to cop on to himself, soon there will be nothing west of the shannon except tourists.

Dozer1

Simple Simon has nailed his colours quite clearly in my eyes to the bigger farmers with his CAP stance, small farmers or farmer on poor land are on their own.

just adding insult to injury with the 400euro rubbish payment.
Will anyone say he a good minister for agriculture now....:mad:

moy83

blue5000 wrote: »

It's a balls, first it was 80e per cow, then 40 per cow. Now we are down to 20e for 20 cows, whats next 10 euro for 10 cows? Simple simon would want to cop on to himself, soon there will be nothing west of the shannon except tourists.

You hit the nail on the head there blue , one big national park full of furze bushes and the odd small cow tied into the leanto at the side of the thatched cottage is what Europe wants for its tousists . Simon couldnt care less about the small boys

tanko

Am i right in assuming that a farmer will have to take part in this scheme in order to continue in a beef discussion group?

InchicoreDude

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/site/farming-Beef-Data-Programme-set-to-focus-on-animal-events--16139.html

Farmers with stock bulls will also be required to complete a functionality assessment around issues such as mobility and fertility.

What will this involve?

hugo29

tanko wrote: »

Am i right in assuming that a farmer will have to take part in this scheme in order to continue in a beef discussion group?

yes you will, new scheme also has to record cow milk yield, and as someone else pointed out Stock Bull details

Basically more work for less money, how does that work

If you are in current SCWS then you automatically get a application form sent to you in Jan,

wonder will the new scheme actually pay for twins unlike the old one which only paid for one calf

InchicoreDude

hugo29 wrote: »

wonder will the new scheme actually pay for twins unlike the old one which only paid for one calf

Yeah, that was strange in the old scheme. You got paid per cow, not per calf. But then most of the requirements are relaed to the calf. So it didnt make much sense.

Then again, you are being paid for producing a better quality weanling and they did pay out on stillborn calves. That didnt make much sense to me either.

LivInt20

Latest on this new beef data scheme Irish Examiner

http://www.irishexaminer.com/farming/beef/20-per-suckler-in-new-beef-data-programme-218399.html

"If we have moneys left over after that, then we will give it to the farmers who have more than 20 cows. I believe there will be some money left over to give top-up payments to farmers with 30 to 40 suckler cows," said Agriculture Minister Simon Coveney.

LivInt20

Minister Announces Opening of Application Period for Beef Data Programme

It's €20 for first 30 calves and €10 for the next 20.

Closing date for application is 15th May.

pakalasa

http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/press/pressreleases/2013/april/title,69758,en.html

blue5000

LivInt20 wrote: »

Minister Announces Opening of Application Period for Beef Data Programme

It's €20 for first 30 calves and €10 for the next 20.

Closing date for application is 15th May.

"20 yoyo per CALF, if it is still born, or has bvd or dies before weaning what is the story? Slightly better than 400yoyo, thanks simon, but if this fcukin weather keeps up you'll find it very easy to pay it next year because there will be fcuk all suckler cows left in the country.

larthehar

10 euros extra for pedigrees?! Def worth getting into them for that!!

pakalasa

I wonder if you offered staff in the Department Of Agrculture €20 per annum, to do extra work, what would the reaction be?

LivInt20

Beef Data Programme info now on Dept website.

tanko

Got my form in the post yesterday. Forms must be in by May 15. Limit of 50 calves, 20 euro for first 30 and 10 euro for next 20 calves born in 2013.

LivInt20

To register for the Beef Data Programme


Log into agfood with your login details and open the single farm payment home page.

Scroll down page and you will see

Beef data programme

Click view and tick the box in top left corner and save


So glad dept made it soooo.... easy to find and register.

just do it

I wonder about the begrudgery about this scheme. The SCWS ran its 5 year course and achieved its objective - training us to wean our weanlings correctly. Probably would have continued but for the major economic down turn. Despite that Coveney has managed to squeeze a few bob out of his cabinet colleagues and the department of finance for this scheme and the discussion groups. Both add value on a national level and generally are of more interest to the smaller farmer.