Eagle Vs Fox - Great pic

223vmax

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4681245/Its-a-talons-hunt.html

dodderangler

223vmax wrote: »

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4681245/Its-a-talons-hunt.html

Mate have you not seen the videos?
That fox was blessed that the holdin already had a kill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Peo3UAErrU0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Birdnuts

dodderangler wrote: »

Mate have you not seen the videos?
That fox was blessed that the holdin already had a kill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Peo3UAErrU0&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/QUOTE]

You have to admire the skill of falconers that can get their birds to take on prey that wild birds would usually find too much of a challenge. Indeed it looked touch and go at times for some of the eagles in that clip and I wouldn't be suprised if some birds get seriously injured when taking on the likes of adult foxes,jackals etc. Indeed I'd say nearly all of the youtube clips of eagles hunting are falconry birds, given that it is near impossbile to get close enough to film wild birds hunting for most species of eagle. Many nature documentaries also use falconry birds for such purposes, as was the case for that recent BBC one on large raptors in Africa and Asia.

dodderangler

Don't forget wolves
The lads in Mongolia hunt wolves aswell with the goldies tho it would be with a adult female weighing about 10 lbs at least and would be using two of them
One to strike and other to finish the kill
Them falconers are the most skilled of all the falconers
Using traits passed down from generations

Birdnuts

dodderangler wrote: »

Don't forget wolves
The lads in Mongolia hunt wolves aswell with the goldies tho it would be with a adult female weighing about 10 lbs at least and would be using two of them
One to strike and other to finish the kill
Them falconers are the most skilled of all the falconers
Using traits passed down from generations

Yeah amazing stuff - obviously that takes special training since no wild bird in its right mind would take on a healthy wolf. Even if Mongolian wolves are a good bit smaller than the very large Timber wolves you get in the US and Canada. You'd want a velocoraptor it take on one of them;)

dodderangler

Not necessarily
A big female goldie in the wild would weigh a lot more than a captive female and think their talons are something 2000lbs of force per sq inch
So if she was to take the wolf by the head then it's as good as game over
The Kamchatka goldies would be the largest in the world with some weighing over 14 lbs in females
That's one hell of a bird and they take on wild pigs which we all know to be seriously aggressive
Needs a experienced bird to take one on
I wouldn't underestimate a goldie against most animals

Birdnuts

dodderangler wrote: »

The Kamchatka goldies would be the largest in the world with some weighing over 14 lbs in females

Thats true enough - they are a signifcantly larger bird then the ones found in Europe and these islands. Its the same with Bald Eagles in the US with birds in Alaska and Canada being a good deal larger then the sub-species found in the GOM and along the East coast.

dodderangler

I never knew why the Kamchatka were always larger tho
Is it because of the cold terrain and the food they would likely eat that makes them larger that they evolved a lot bigger than the other goldies
I know of a lad in Ireland that flies a goldie male
Think he plans on flying it after hare
I also know of a lad in England that flies a goldie at hare and fox and is pretty successful in his hunts

Birdnuts

dodderangler wrote: »

I never knew why the Kamchatka were always larger tho
Is it because of the cold terrain and the food they would likely eat that makes them larger that they evolved a lot bigger than the other goldies
I know of a lad in Ireland that flies a goldie male
Think he plans on flying it after hare
I also know of a lad in England that flies a goldie at hare and fox and is pretty successful in his hunts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergmans_rule

Basically means that individuals of the same species tend to be larger in colder climates - usually increasing closer to the polar regions you get. Has been well documented in many species including, brown bears, wolves, eagles etc.