Ordering new tags/ BVD testing

cowbox

I have a few cows due to calf in the next week but I have noticed I have no tags left. So I will have to order ones. But will I be made BVD test these if I order a batch of tags??
Thought it wasn't til January but if i order new tags now will they come with a BVD testing kit? Im confused on the whole situation.

ZETOR_IS_BETTER

I got non bvd tags in the post the other day to cover me until Jan.
You wont have to bvd test a calf until 2013

Bactidiaryl

Ordering new will take close to six weeks by which time it will be January and your calves will be over 23 days and that your next dilemma.

vanderbadger

Bactidiaryl wrote: »

Ordering new will take close to six weeks by which time it will be January and your calves will be over 23 days and that your next dilemma.

mine arrived in about 2 weeks after ordering them

ZETOR_IS_BETTER

vanderbadger wrote: »

mine arrived in about 2 weeks after ordering them

Same story with me too vander

vanderbadger

its messy enough i think, i sent off my first set of samples today..sent them to enfer, i dont know why they (dept) didnt factor the price of the testing into the cost of the tags and avoid having to send cheques off with sample or set up accounts with the lab in question

ZETOR_IS_BETTER

All those payment forms gives somebody something to do and look busy

jomoloney

vanderbadger wrote: »

its messy enough i think, i sent off my first set of samples today..sent them to enfer, i dont know why they (dept) didnt factor the price of the testing into the cost of the tags and avoid having to send cheques off with sample or set up accounts with the lab in question

ZETOR_IS_BETTER wrote: »

All those payment forms gives somebody something to do and look busy

for enfer you can pay on line, takes about as long as to post on boards

cowbox

ok so I should be ok if I just order my tags won't start doing the BVD testing til January then. What the best company to send the samples for bvd to or do we even have a choice?

whelan1

vanderbadger wrote: »

its messy enough i think, i sent off my first set of samples today..sent them to enfer, i dont know why they (dept) didnt factor the price of the testing into the cost of the tags and avoid having to send cheques off with sample or set up accounts with the lab in question

with enfer send off a cheque to cover a good few animals, they will hold the money on account.. i use enfer but money is deducted from my glanbia account... for my dads sucklers he sent in a chque for 50 euro early in the year to cover his samples.... the reason the testing money isnt included with tags is that there are a few companies doing the testing

vanderbadger

whelan1 wrote: »

with enfer send off a cheque to cover a good few animals, they will hold the money on account.. i use enfer but money is deducted from my glanbia account... for my dads sucklers he sent in a chque for 50 euro early in the year to cover his samples.... the reason the testing money isnt included with tags is that there are a few companies doing the testing

ya girl i was tlaking to said she would set up account for me which means you get charged 3.60 as opposed to 3.90 i think
anyway i tagged all my autumn calfs there at weekend so i hope i dont have the fecking thing, its my first time testing for it except for 2 sick calves last year..

whelan1

we had 1 for the whole year.... its great for peace of mind

Timmaay

Whelan, the Glanbia test is 3.40 isn't it? I havn't seen anyone cheaper out there yet, the Glanbia one is probably the easiest for us with no messing with cheques etc.

whelan1

Timmaay wrote: »

Whelan, the Glanbia test is 3.40 isn't it? I havn't seen anyone cheaper out there yet, the Glanbia one is probably the easiest for us with no messing with cheques etc.

yup... think its around 3.40 .. very handy....

slippy wicket

whelan1 wrote: »

yup... think its around 3.40 .. very handy....

In general they may be a bunch of hoors, but that is a very good service.

Plus it's great to have one year done of the screening period.

whelan1

slippy wicket wrote: »

In general they may be a bunch of hoors, but that is a very good service.

Plus it's great to have one year done of the screening period.

ye was at a group meeting last week and the fear some people have of the scheme is unreal....

slippy wicket

whelan1 wrote: »

ye was at a group meeting last week and the fear some people have of the scheme is unreal....

I guess the thought of having to destroy 'perfectly good' PI calves has put the frighteners up some people all right.

Bar the extremely unlucky case, it's to the benifit of us all. Especially those who cannot for whatever reason run a closed herd.
Touch wood had none last year and will have none this, especially when we gave to buy in replacements for cows lost with tb.

whelan1

wil you test the ones you are buying in for bvd before you get them

slippy wicket

whelan1 wrote: »

wil you test the ones you are buying in for bvd before you get them

Hadn't thought about it yet, will have to check how long the blood test takes.
Feckin vet lab is a law onto themselves.

whelan1

we got cattle blood tested last year took 3 ful weeks for the bloods:eek: did some later on and it only took a week, we sent them to stormont

blue5000

whelan1 wrote: »

ye was at a group meeting last week and the fear some people have of the scheme is unreal....

I think there are a good few mainly older farmers out there who, how shall I put it, might be a bit slow with the paper work. To avoid getting a nasty letter from the dept along the lines of ''calf no xxxxx cannot be registered because dam no zzzzzzz has had a calf registered to her, no xzxzxzxzx less than 300 days ago''

People got around this by not registering calves until a year after the previous calf was born registered;). Now they have a problem, they have to register and do the bvd test within 7 days of birth.

I wonder could IFA look for a once off solution to this problem?

funny man

cowbox wrote: »

ok so I should be ok if I just order my tags won't start doing the BVD testing til January then. What the best company to send the samples for bvd to or do we even have a choice?

Maybe i have mis-read what you are saying but if you have young calves now that your not going to test and you will test everything from january on, then your just been short-sighted in getting full benefit from the scheme. If all calves test clear from this crop then you will have some peace of mind, but if you carry a PI for a whole year, your just asking for trouble.

funny man

blue5000 wrote: »

I wonder could IFA look for a once off solution to this problem?

Yea what about regester the calf within 27 days:rolleyes:.

whelan1

funny man wrote: »

Maybe i have mis-read what you are saying but if you have young calves now that your not going to test and you will test everything from january on, then your just been short-sighted in getting full benefit from the scheme. If all calves test clear from this crop then you will have some peace of mind, but if you carry a PI for a whole year, your just asking for trouble.

yes alot of people will be a full year ahead of others why delay it any longer

funny man

whelan1 wrote: »

yes alot of people will be a full year ahead of others why delay it any longer

all i say is AHI have their work cut out!

Timmaay

Very lazy question here, what address do I send off the samples for the Glanbia test, anyone know?

whelan1

Timmaay wrote: »

Very lazy question here, what address do I send off the samples for the Glanbia test, anyone know?

to enfer?
enfer labs, bvd testing, unit t, m7 businees pk, newhall, naas, co kildare,,, thats from memory:rolleyes: