The next big CT nexus?

Monty Burnz

Well we've had Y2k, we've had the re-election of Obama, we've had the London Olympics, and all have come and gone without the end of the world/revelation of the Anti-Christ yadda yadda yadda.

Shortly 2013 will roll around without the world coming to end. So I find myself wondering what the next big CT thing is going to be? Is there some vague 'prophecy' about 2013 being dusted off as we speak?

RTDH, you have your finger on the CT pulse - can you give us a preview of what you will be giving us dire warnings about next year? Or will you just be sticking to the Obama Anti-Christ stuff for a while yet?

Jonny7

I'm guessing the next thing will be the imminent world war 3 from Israel's rising rhetoric over Iran.. that will be tied into the NWO/Obama taking over and declaring martial law, etc.

Monty Burnz

Jonny7 wrote: »

I'm guessing the next thing will be the imminent world war 3 from Israel's rising rhetoric over Iran.. that will be tied into the NWO/Obama taking over and declaring martial law, etc.

I can certainly imagine that happening, but it doesn't have a fixed date to look forward to. The whole Middle East situation is a can you can keep kicking further down the road, like the coming totalitarian government of America - it's been promised for a very, very long time and yet in reality it seems as far away as ever. I'm just wondering what the next big fixed-date CT rallying point is going to be.

brimal

2013 UEFA U-21 Championship will be the 19th staging of UEFA's European Under-21 Football Championship. The tournament will be hosted by Israel between the 5–18 June 2013

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_UEFA_European_Under-21_Football_Championship

A major(ish) sporting event and it is being hosted by Israel. I'm predicting plenty of Mossad/false flag/Jews are bad/etc. stories from this. Perhaps a Mossad operative will infiltrate Norway's under-21 team, come on as a substitute and score an own goal in Israel's opening fixture against them....

gnfnrhead

brimal wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_UEFA_European_Under-21_Football_Championship

A major(ish) sporting event and it is being hosted by Israel. I'm predicting plenty of Mossad/false flag/Jews are bad/etc. stories from this. Perhaps a Mossad operative will infiltrate Norway's under-21 team, come on as a substitute and score an own goal in Israel's opening fixture against them....

Some big names are asking for it to be moved somewhere else due to the situation in Israel. Probably won't be moved, but stranger things have happened.

Brown Bomber

brimal wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_UEFA_European_Under-21_Football_Championship

A major(ish) sporting event and it is being hosted by Israel. I'm predicting plenty of Mossad/false flag/Jews are bad/etc. stories from this. Perhaps a Mossad operative will infiltrate Norway's under-21 team, come on as a substitute and score an own goal in Israel's opening fixture against them....

Full statement by footballers and list of those that signed and their clubs:

We, as European football players, express our solidarity with the people of Gaza who are living under siege and denied basic human dignity and freedom. The latest Israeli bombardment of Gaza, resulting in the death of over a hundred civilians, was yet another stain on the world's conscience.
We are informed that on 10 November 2012 the Israeli army bombed a sports stadium in Gaza, resulting in the death of four young people playing football, Mohamed Harara and Ahmed Harara, 16 and 17 years old; Matar Rahman and Ahmed Al Dirdissawi, 18 years old.
We are also informed that since February 2012 two footballers with the club Al Amari, Omar Rowis, 23, and Mohammed Nemer, 22, have been detained in Israel without charge or trial.

It is unacceptable that children are killed while they play football. Israel hosting the UEFA Under-21 European Championship, in these circumstances, will be seen as a reward for actions that are contrary to sporting values.
Despite the recent ceasefire, Palestinians are still forced to endure a desperate existence under occupation, they must be protected by the international community. All people have the right to a life of dignity, freedom and security. We hope that a just settlement will finally emerge.
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php/palestine-and-israel/2095-top-footballers-worldwide-condemn-israels-gaza-assault-and-call-for-competition-boycott-

brimal

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Some big names are asking for it to be moved somewhere else due to the situation in Israel. Probably won't be moved, but stranger things have happened.

It won't be moved. None of the players taking part in the tournament have signed this letter for a start, and Platini is a stubborn guy - it would take something monumental for him to change the venue.

I was actually at a match in Teddy Stadium last night, they are busy upgrading the capacity for the Euros, looks impressive.

Monty Burnz

Brown Bomber wrote: »

We are informed that on 10 November 2012 the Israeli army bombed a sports stadium in Gaza, resulting in the death of four young people playing football, Mohamed Harara and Ahmed Harara, 16 and 17 years old; Matar Rahman and Ahmed Al Dirdissawi, 18 years old.

I suppose they can explain this one by stating that they hit a terrorist (i.e. Palestinian) (football) training camp.

Brown Bomber

brimal wrote: »

It won't be moved. None of the players taking part in the tournament have signed this letter for a start, and Platini is a stubborn guy - it would take something monumental for him to change the venue.

I was actually at a match in Teddy Stadium last night, they are busy upgrading the capacity for the Euros, looks impressive.

Yeah. Sounds like a wonderful place.

Organization

The organization began in 2005 and occupy the eastern sections of Teddy Stadium. Estimates of the group's numbers vary. A reporter put the number at a few hundred[2] while a leader of the group said that it encompassed a network of 3,000 supporters.[3] At a home match in 2008, a correspondent for the BBC said that the group was about 20% of the crowd. They are the most vocal in the stadium and many local fans follow their chants.[2][3]
La Familia is proud of its Jewish identity. The group is notorious for chants that insult Arab and black players, and for displaying the flag of the banned Kach party.[2] Cheers with lines such as "death to the Arabs"[4] and "Muhammad is a homosexual"[5] are common. Unlike other top clubs in the country, no Arabs have ever played for Beitar. La Familia has continuously raised strong objections to any Arab transfers.[6]


The team has roots in the Betar Zionist youth movement and has been supported by several Israeli politicians on the political right throughout its history. La Familia has similarly been labeled far-right and is openly against those they view as being on the left.[4][7] Some Beitar fans have expressed embarrassment over the organization.[8]

Are you a Beitar fan? Isn't it true that they have never signed an Arab player?

Brown Bomber

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I suppose they can explain this one by stating that they hit a terrorist (i.e. Palestinian) (football) training camp.

Rocket launch site apparently. They also destroyed the Paralympics HQ and stadium.
http://www.paralympic.org/news/npc-palestine-headquarters-destroyed

brimal

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Yeah. Sounds like a wonderful place.

It really is. The stadium is a nice size and the spectators are very close to the pitch.

Are you a Beitar fan? Isn't it true that they have never signed an Arab player?

I am not sure why you are giving me a copy/paste of Beitar's Wikipedia entry. There is more than just Beitar that play there. Beitar don't own the stadium.

If you bothered checking, Beitar were playing away last night, so please stop jumping to conclusions.

Brown Bomber

brimal wrote: »

It really is. The stadium is a nice size and the spectators are very close to the pitch.

I am not sure why you are giving me a copy/paste of Beitar's Wikipedia entry. There is more than just Beitar that play there. Beitar don't own the stadium.

If you bothered checking, Beitar were playing away last night, so please stop jumping to conclusions.

Point taken.

I'm all for Israeli teams playing and hosting in UEFA tournaments as I believe that there should be a separation between sport and politics but can you honestly tell me these Palestinian football clubs don't have a point?

Mr. Platini,
We, Palestinian footballers, athletes and sporting organizations and officials, are dismayed that Israel has been rewarded for its continued impunity and violent oppression of our people with the honour of hosting the UEFA Under-21 tournament in 2013. This decision is a drastic reversal of your brave stand just last year against Israeli attacks on Palestinian sport and its persistent violations of universal principles of human rights.

You said: “We accepted them in Europe and furnished them the conditions for membership and they must respect the letter of the laws and international regulations otherwise there is no justification for them to remain in Europe. Israel must choose between allowing Palestinian sport to continue and prosper or be forced to face the consequences for their behaviour”. We write today to remind you of the facts that no doubt informed this brave stance and to urge you to take steps to ensure that the 2013 tournament does not take place in Israel.

If this tournament goes ahead as planned, football fans from all over Europe and beyond will be given the impression that Israel is a country like any other, rather than one that practices a unique combination of occupation, colonization and apartheid against the indigenous Palestinian population. Games may be played at the Ramat Gan Stadium, which was built on land seized under the Absentee Property Owners Law of 1950, from the Palestinian villages of Jarisha and al-Jammasin al-Sharqi. Football should not preclude the refugees from these villages from returning to their lands, as is their UN-sanctioned right.

Israel’s violations of international law are numerous and continue unabated and impact Palestinian football and the people of Palestine more generally. The infamous Israeli permit system, which has been used to deny so many Palestinians the right to travel, is reminiscent of the “pass laws” of Apartheid South Africa, and is used to deny footballers the right to travel to international tournaments, or even participate in local practices, in violation of Article 33 of the Geneva Conventions barring collective punishment.[1]

The use of overwhelming force in Operation Cast Lead in winter 2008-09 was responsible for leveling large swathes of Gaza including the Rafah National Stadium[2], and killing football players Ayman Alkurd, Shadi Sbakhe and Wajeh Moshate, as well as over 1,400 other Gazans.[3]

Israel’s Apartheid Wall, ruled illegal by the International Court of Justice in 2004, runs its eight- meter-high solid concrete course less than 100 meters away from the Faisal Al Husseini Stadium in Al-Ram, the current national stadium of Palestine.[4] The arbitrary arrest of thousands of Palestinians, including Gazan Palestinian National Team member Mahmoud Kamel As-Sarsak, held without trial or indeed public explanation for their arrest, is a routine tool of Israeli occupation.[5]
Israel’s system of occupation, colonization and apartheid impacts Palestinian football and all Palestinians.

In the face of South African Apartheid, Ruud Gullit dedicated his 1987 European Footballer of the Year Award to Nelson Mandela. We call upon you to make a similar stand against Apartheid, by ensuring that Israel is not allowed to host the 2013 tournament, rather than allow the organization that you lead to reward Israel for its violent repression of Palestinian rights.
We look forward to your reply,

http://www.bdsmovement.net/2011/letter-to-platini-7377

Jonny7

Any excuse possible to blame the Israel/US for everything is my big prediction

KamiKazi

It will be something ridiculous, touted non-stop by the tinfoil hat wearers and then quietly dropped when it fails to come to fruition.

Although, isn't that the template for most conspiracy theories?

Torakx

I find it sometimes a bit silly, when people demand proof for some CT's that are based on people conspiring in secret.And are just theories.

Im not sure who takes ths stuff more serious, the people posting CT's or the people complaining about them.
Sometimes its hard to tell. ^^

gnfnrhead

Torakx wrote: »

I find it sometimes a bit silly, when people demand proof for some CT's that are based on people conspiring in secret.And are just theories.

Im not sure who takes ths stuff more serious, the people posting CT's or the people complaining about them.
Sometimes its hard to tell. ^^

You dont think there should be a reliable basis for it?

Torakx

Different people have different requirements on what is a reliable basis.
I think that having no proof is ussually inherent to a theory,when its first formed,maybe im wrong there.
With conspiracy theories it seems an obvious factor, considering those conspiring would ussually take measures to protect themselves.
Sometimes its quite obvious the situation,but there is no proof.

Many times i have had suspicions relating to CT's and they have been correct.
Many times i have had suspicions and they have been proven false or im still waiting on confirmation.

So i see it as hit and miss.Sometimes there is enough to see clearly and other times its going on a hunch.
To me that is what any investigation is about.
Following suspicions and finding collaborative material/facts.
For me the forums is a way to bounce ideas around with other like minded people.

So im not pre-emptively looking down on the next CT or fantastic CT.
They provide interesting angles and also i learn quite alot about other aspects of the world and politics from them too.


Thats pretty much why i dissagree with all the slander going on against posters on these forums.
I dont care if a theory is radical, i dont believe half of them personally.
But i do believe alot of the time there are grains of truth, that can be worth looking into.

Without people posting "radical" views, i believe many other regular posters would drift off to other forums or not get as much enjoyment as they do now from these forums.

Ying/Yang and all that jazz.
Or if your in the illuminatti above/below lol

Jonny7

Just as conspiracy theorists challenge the "official" story, they shouldn't expect own alternative theories to be left unchallenged, especially on a public forum. Goes without saying really.

Torakx

I cant dissagree with that
I would expect a good conversation about the pros and cons.

But one less competitive and more cooperative suits me better.
I suppose thats hard when people can have drastically different views on how the world "works".

When our own view of reality is put under pressure, its natural to take it personal, as thats exactly what it is when you think about it.

As for the next big nexus, im not sure of the question
Is that to mean a nexus apart from the global elite, or a smaller nexus within that.

The big ones coming up i suppose would be related to what the US/Israel are up to in the middle east and WW3 etc etc.

The ever oncoming apocalype/doomsday.
If my memory is correct, the current ones roughly based on the Mayan calendar and the turning of the ages,could possibly be stretched for a few hundred years.
Until we can veriify there isnt anything in range that can hit us.

Father Damo

The next US mass shooting will be an Obama false flag. Declaration of this will be made in the minutes following the shooting, as absoloutely zero evidence is required to make the assertion. Why? Because if you disagree with me you are a sheeple la la la la......

Torakx

Isnt shee*le a curse word here? tut tut could get banned

hooradiation

Torakx wrote: »

Isnt shee*le a curse word here? tut tut could get banned

if it's not it fucking ought to be

lovesfatgirls

Tbh im sitting here popcorn in hand for when its announced the air we breathe causes cancer, should bring the crazies out in force.
I Think itll be a some sort of virus its been pushed a few times in the last while, but just doesn't seem to cause enough hysteria