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Magdalen

  • 01-12-2012 11:26am
    #1
    Site Banned Posts: 224 ✭✭


    Why do some people pronounce the word magdalen/magdalene as mag-dah-lenn while others pronounce it as maude-lin? Which is correct?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    In my view, any pronunciation is correct if it is established in a community that speaks a language. So it can often arise that different pronunciations are correct. I like consistency, and would go along with the idea that a pronunciation imported from a different language community is a bit off, arguably incorrect.

    I associate maudlin with English upper-middle class English, and especially Oxbridge. In Ireland, I think mag-dah-len is pretty well the established version, and maudlin is best avoided.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Is the maudlin pronunciation not unique to the college?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    slowburner wrote: »
    Is the maudlin pronunciation not unique to the college?
    I thought so too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    There are many examples in English of words that are pronounced in a much different way than they appear to be phonetically -

    Beauchamp = Beecham
    Cholmondeley = Chumley
    St John = Singeon
    Featherstonehaw = Fanshaw

    ..and so on.

    Some of it is down to affectation, some to an older pronunciation.

    tac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭mitosis


    There was a case in Australia some years ago, IIRC, wherein a shop called Harrods was sued by Harrods of London.

    The defendant won because while it spelled the same as Harrods, it was in fact pronounced "Smiths"

    Pronunciation is, as noted by P B above, locally governed by usage.

    Ralph Fienes.


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