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straying sheep

  • 01-12-2012 2:30am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭


    Me and my neighbours are very distraught we would consider ourselves good farmers doing our best in bad times. A guy moves a few hundred horny ewes into a bit of land beside us and you know the rest its free country for them. He doesent give a s...t. What can we do ?:mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭funny man


    I had a similar problem, i told the guy with land rented next to me once if it wasn't sorted the next day i'd have to take action. two days later i drew 3 load of lambs to the nearest pound. he had to pay a fee to retreive them and i never seen him of the sheep again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    red bull wrote: »
    Me and my neighbours are very distraught we would consider ourselves good farmers doing our best in bad times. A guy moves a few hundred horny ewes into a bit of land beside us and you know the rest its free country for them. He doesent give a s...t. What can we do ?:mad:

    House all your own stock and bring all the road gates in for the winter. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭red bull


    mf240 wrote: »
    House all your own stock and bring all the road gates in for the winter. ;)

    Our own stock are housed. Getting rid of the sheep is the problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,126 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    If you can round them up! the pound is the best place for a load of them,
    A lad takes five acres near me every winter and runs hundreds of hill ram lambs on it on ad lib meal, had one of them in with the ewes today jumping on everything even though there in lamb, burdizzo was the first thought I had then I had a better plan, loaded him and brought him over to the lads homeplace and let him out with his ewes, he was shorn mud fat and would jump sheep gates no bother


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    I know of a man that had trouble like that many years ago. Some fella rented land beside his land and ran sheep over it. He left them roam onto his farm. One day he came onto the mans land to count his sheep and came across the land owner standing at the gate with a length of rope in his hand. The land owner asked him if they were his sheep and he replied yes, he showed him the length of rope and told him it was for him if the sheep ever roamed onto his land again. The free grazing sheep were quickly taken away and never returned.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭jmrc


    I wouldn't condone threatening action, but there is nothing worse than stray animals.
    I also heard a similar story of a land owner letting a sheep owner know how he felt by telling him in no uncertain terms that his stray sheep would not be tolerated.

    And there is a lot to be said for the old adage “ good fences make great neighbours”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭Arrow in the Knee


    jmrc wrote: »
    And there is a lot to be said for the old adage “ good fences make great neighbours”

    Agree with that jmrc:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,126 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Around here its said that the lads taking land for sheep over winter don't pay much heed the grass there taking its more important what's in the surrounding feilds.

    An old neighbour of mine always said when talking about sheep" a sheeps biggest enemy is another sheep"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Around here its said that the lads taking land for sheep over winter don't pay much heed the grass there taking its more important what's in the surrounding feilds.

    An old neighbour of mine always said when talking about sheep" a sheeps biggest enemy is another sheep"

    He's probably a mate of the guy I know who told the lady captain of the local golf club that "where-ever you have a couple of hundred ewes you're bound to have a few dead ones" when she rang to complain about the ewe carcass that was starting to stink beside the fence on the 7th fairway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    red bull wrote: »
    Me and my neighbours are very distraught we would consider ourselves good farmers doing our best in bad times. A guy moves a few hundred horny ewes into a bit of land beside us and you know the rest its free country for them. He doesent give a s...t. What can we do ?:mad:

    Hi Red bull,

    I assume they have tags, as they should have.

    I am not sure if this will help, but it would be what I'd do - the next time a few come in, can you get em into a house and take their numbers. Give the farmer in question a shout, and tell him you have his lambs, and if he doesn't sort it out, then you will be ringing the dept, with the tag numbers, telling them your story that he can't control his animals. Get your neighbours to do the same.

    I know people don't like to report other people if they can avoid it, and everyone has animals break out every now and then... But fcuk it, if they coming in eating your grass constantly, I wouldn't have any sympathy for that lad...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    mf240 wrote: »
    House all your own stock and bring all the road gates in for the winter. ;)


    if they cause an accident straying from your fields, then i would guess that the public liability may be with you....

    maybe someone could confirm this but I would say that is the law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    Dunedin wrote: »
    if they cause an accident straying from your fields, then i would guess that the public liability may be with you....

    maybe someone could confirm this but I would say that is the law.

    I doubt that. If they were on the road because they escaped from there owners land, the fact that they got to the road via my land instead of directly from ther own makes no difference.

    If I have my own stock safely housed I cannot be expected to worry about stray animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 kosice21


    anyone any advice on what to do with a neighbour who continues over the last number of years to allow sheep and occasionaly horses to traspass onto my land.
    my solictor wrote to these people but they never even replied, so i have been reporting them each time now that that it occures to the Garda so i have a record and wonder is there any thing else i can do as im sure they will be back in again soon ..i have been doing this for the last 2 years and also in between this i caught the neighbour actually on my land removing the sheep again i reported this to the garda - anyone any advice on what they would do next


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭liam7831


    Drive them out on to the road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 kosice21


    Hi Liam

    this has been going on for ages and neighbours are so arrogant they just dont give a damm - have done that too but still they come back when they get can..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    Fence it, it will and probably would have saved a lot of hassle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 kosice21


    i had issues with this farmer about fencing and on advise from solictor its up to him to erect fence on his side as there could be an issue further down the road with him trying to claim full ownership of a ditch which we have agreed to shared boundry - so erecting a fence is out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,332 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    What's the fence like on your side? Surely you should have a fence on your side too. The fence would probably be cheaper than the solicitors fees


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Report him to the dept!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    How about a few in the deep freeze......

    I suppose that would be a bit difficult....You'd need to know the right sort of butcher......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Stick the fence on top of the ditch,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭satstheway


    There are some plants poisonous to sheep. 😉


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    satstheway wrote: »
    There are some plants poisonous to sheep. 😉

    theres also high copper buckets but the dept is still the way to go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 kosice21


    gammo
    what will the dept do ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    kosice21 wrote: »
    gammo
    what will the dept do ?

    Full farm inspection.
    If they find not stock proof fencing they can hit his sfp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    ganmo wrote: »
    Full farm inspection.
    If they find not stock proof fencing they can hit his sfp

    But would that not work both ways, and the OP could also be hit.

    Stock proof is not only keeping yours in, it's also keeping others out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    But would that not work both ways, and the OP could also be hit.

    Stock proof is not only keeping yours in, it's also keeping others out

    I presume they have cattle. So they could have stock proof fences for their requirements


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭theaceofspies


    ganmo wrote: »
    I presume they have cattle. So they could have stock proof fences for their requirements

    If you have a holding yard then drive then in there and send him a photo of how they are doing. Let him come collect/feed & water them from there onwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,198 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    ganmo wrote: »
    Full farm inspection.
    If they find not stock proof fencing they can hit his sfp

    Nothing to do with the dept, this is a personal dispute and can be fixed by fencing his own boundary


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/animalhealthwelfare/legislation/AnimalHealthandWelfareAct060314.pdf

    Section 8 it doesn't say which organisation is responsible for enforcing it or details the penalities for breaking this law


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,511 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    whelan2 wrote: »
    What's the fence like on your side? Surely you should have a fence on your side too. The fence would probably be cheaper than the solicitors fees
    OP may not be a farmer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭satstheway


    I have a friend who's neighbours sheep was always breaking in and he got a bit fed up.
    So on the last occasion he informed the neighbour that the sheep were in again but never said he actually had them closed in a yard. Some days later he rang him again and said are you not going to lift these sheep because there starting to get a bit hungry looking in the yard.
    Neighbour knew that my friend was for taking no sh1t anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    I've heard of sheep being landed to the mart too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 aboutblank


    A friend had a sheep problem for a number of years until he decided that any that came in would never be seen again. The owner was then very quick to learn there's no such thing as a free lunch, and the problem was solved!!


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