price v skelton

barney4001

Price wins in 2 rounds with body shots

Dietsquirt

It was a mismatch from the beginning, hopefully Price/Fury next year and the winner fights Wlad.

T-K-O

Price has been impressive but id like to see 1/2 more fights before wlad

walshb

Another mismatch with Price.

Not impressed with this Bradley Saunders.

gene_tunney

Dietsquirt wrote: »

It was a mismatch from the beginning, hopefully Price/Fury next year and the winner fights Wlad.

Waaaaay too soon for either of them. Both would need to beat a fringe challenger (Fury has done this in fairness), then a top 5 heavy before getting near challenging Wlad.

Dietsquirt

gene_tunney wrote: »

Waaaaay too soon for either of them. Both would need to beat a fringe challenger (Fury has done this in fairness), then a top 5 heavy before getting near challenging Wlad.

They're talking about it already (Fury/Wlad), possibly in Croker:rolleyes:
To be fair the Heavyweight division is so poor, that other than Povetkin, Fury or Price are probably going to offer Wlad the strongest challenge. The Klitschkos generally don't like to fight taller boxers than themselves. Neither of them ever tried to get Valuev. Fury & Price are both bigger. i
I don't see why they shouldn't get a shot at the title in 2013.

Dick phelan

walshb wrote: »

Another mismatch with Price.

Not impressed with this Bradley Saunders.

I No my god are the lads commentating watching the same fight as me, they keep saying how impressive saunders looks maybe im missing it but he hasnt been impressing me at all

T-K-O

Dick phelan wrote: »

I No my god are the lads commentating watching the same fight as me, they keep saying how impressive saunders looks maybe im missing it but he hasnt been impressing me at all

...and the competition is not up to much

magma69

Another fight Price learns nothing from. They need to put him in with someone he won't blow out in a few rounds.

Chisora would be a good opponent.

T-K-O

magma69 wrote: »

Another fight Price learns nothing from. They need to put him in with someone he won't blow out in a few rounds.

Chisora would be a good opponent.

15 fights in ... I think his progression is OK

magma69

T-K-O wrote: »

15 fights in ... I think his progression is OK

He's almost 30 and came into the pros with a very solid amateur background. Should have been brought along quicker imo.

T-K-O

magma69 wrote: »

He's almost 30 and came into the pros with a very solid amateur background. Should have been brought along quicker imo.

The pro's is a different sport... he is potentially 2 fights away from a Klitscho, thats not bad

Dick phelan

magma69 wrote: »

He's almost 30 and came into the pros with a very solid amateur background. Should have been brought along quicker imo.

Agree fully the guy dosnt have all day to wait around Fury is much younger then Price and so can build slower, if anything Fury has fought the better fighters Chisora is better then anything Price has beaten, Fury is fighting Kevin Johnson a better fight then either Harrison or Skelton Price needs to step up in level Now not later if he waits much longer he will be past it before he gets a title shot

magma69

T-K-O wrote: »

The pro's is a different sport... he is potentially 2 fights away from a Klitscho, thats not bad

I'm well aware that professional boxing is a different sport to amateur boxing. If you're trying to insinuate that your amateur background and that amount of experience you have before turning over is completely irrelevant, then you're very much mistaken.

It's pretty much standard practice to fast track fighters that were established amateurs and of a higher age than the average that turn over.

Rigondeaux won a world title in his seventh fight.

And I wasn't even referring to him being brought to a world title, I was talking about developing him as a pro boxer. What kind of preparation for Klitschko is blast outs against old journeymen like Harrison and Skelton? He needs to fight some guys that will ask questions of him.

magma69

Dick phelan wrote: »

Agree fully the guy dosnt have all day to wait around Fury is much younger then Price and so can build slower, if anything Fury has fought the better fighters Chisora is better then anything Price has beaten, Fury is fighting Kevin Johnson a better fight then either Harrison or Skelton Price needs to step up in level Now not later if he waits much longer he will be past it before he gets a title shot

Other than pitting Fury against McDermott in his eight fight, which clearly was a mistake, Fury's matchmaking has been terrific up to now.

Syferus

Good to see Price continuing his tour of OAP British heavyweights. He's like a transition year student popping by to have a bit of fun with his favourite oldies every few weeks and then getting them a few bob from the tip jar.

Big Ears

magma69 wrote: »

Other than pitting Fury against McDermott in his eight fight, which clearly was a mistake, Fury's matchmaking has been terrific up to now.

A mistake ?, if anything that has turned out to be one of the best decisions for his career. It made both Fury and his team take a step back and think how they really need to go about things to make him fulfill his potential, and that going on as they were doing simply wasn't good enough, things had to change.
Plus he got the win on his record anyway, which meant he maintained his 0, so everything went perfectly.

I'm sure it will be pointed out that Fury should have lost that fight, and while the 98-92 scorecard was an absolute joke, that fight was a hell of a lot closer than most think. Jim Watt swayed a lot of people with his constant praise of McDermott's ineffective jab. I scored it 95-95, although with that said I couldn't find a way to give Fury the win as he edged all the close rounds on my card and McDermott took the other ones more clearly.

For some reason Jim Watt seems/seemed to love McDermott, always giving him credit just cause he likes to throw thousands of jabs and fight in a similar (but far less effective) manner to the way Watt fought himself. He was like a cheerleader for him in his bouts vs Danny Williams.

magma69

Big Ears wrote: »

A mistake ?, if anything that has turned out to be one of the best decisions for his career. It made both Fury and his team take a step back and think how they really need to go about things to make him fulfill his potential, and that going on as they were doing simply wasn't good enough, things had to change.
Plus he got the win on his record anyway, which meant he maintained his 0, so everything went perfectly.

I'm sure it will be pointed out that Fury should have lost that fight, and while the 98-92 scorecard was an absolute joke, that fight was a hell of a lot closer than most think. Jim Watt swayed a lot of people with his constant praise of McDermott's ineffective jab. I scored it 95-95, although with that said I couldn't find a way to give Fury the win as he edged all the close rounds on my card and McDermott took the other ones more clearly.

For some reason Jim Watt seems/seemed to love McDermott, always giving him credit just cause he likes to throw thousands of jabs and fight in a similar (but far less effective) manner to the way Watt fought himself. He was like a cheerleader for him in his bouts vs Danny Williams.

He lost that fight and it wasn't even close. Nothing to do with Jim Watt either. Putting a 7-0 20 year old prospect with a tough journeyman that he loses to is bad matchmaking.

It did give him the kick up the arse he needed though.

T-K-O

magma69 wrote: »

I'm well aware that professional boxing is a different sport to amateur boxing. If you're trying to insinuate that your amateur background and that amount of experience you have before turning over is completely irrelevant, then you're very much mistaken.

It's pretty much standard practice to fast track fighters that were established amateurs and of a higher age than the average that turn over.

Rigondeaux won a world title in his seventh fight.

And I wasn't even referring to him being brought to a world title, I was talking about developing him as a pro boxer. What kind of preparation for Klitschko is blast outs against old journeymen like Harrison and Skelton? He needs to fight some guys that will ask questions of him.

Boxing is a business and you cannot compare most fighters with Rigondeaux.

His amateur career is not completely irreverent but at the same time a fighters amateur career will not dictate his pro career.

Harrison and Skelton have made Price a name in the UK, this will enable him to sell more tickets and capture the casual fan for a bigger fight down the road.

I fully expect his next two opponents to be a step up and in a years time he will fight for a world title.

His age is not really an issue, he's young enough for the HW division

Big Ears

magma69 wrote: »

He lost that fight and it wasn't even close. Nothing to do with Jim Watt either. Putting a 7-0 20 year old prospect with a tough journeyman that he loses to is bad matchmaking.

It did give him the kick up the arse he needed though.

What was your scorecard out of interest ?
Is it really bad matchmaking if he learns a lot from it ?, what's more important, a fighter developing but risking their unbeaten record, or a fighter being protected at the risk f not developing ?
Look at Deontay Wilder, plenty of athletic ability but he's not going anywhere fast and when he does step up I suspect he'll be in big trouble.....least he's got his pretty looking record though.

magma69

Big Ears wrote: »

What was your scorecard out of interest ?
Is it really bad matchmaking if he learns a lot from it ?, what's more important, a fighter developing but risking their unbeaten record, or a fighter being protected at the risk f not developing ?
Look at Deontay Wilder, plenty of athletic ability but he's not going anywhere fast and when he does step up I suspect he'll be in big trouble.....least he's got his pretty looking record though.

I think I had it seven rounds to three.

It is bad matchmaking to put a 7-0 fighter in a fight he loses. His marketablility would have taken a hit and a loss could have been a blow to his confidence.

You're actually agreeing with my original point. I was complimenting the handling of Furies career with the exception of McDermott 1. Fury has been brought along nicely but putting him in with McDermott too early was a mistake. Good matchmaking is having your prospect in with challenging fights he's good enough and experienced enough to win. That wasn't the case with McDermott 1 and Fury himself has admitted that it was too much too soon.

Putting a prospect in a fight he loses is bad matchmaking by definition.