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The conspiracy against Iran

  • 29-11-2012 3:20pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭


    On tuesday a laughable "graph" was put on display to illustrate Iran's clear program to develop nuclear weapons. An anonymous country, not individual, COUNTRY leaked this pathetic cartoon of a diagram.

    Clearly there is a conspiracy to demonise Iran through this kind of rubbish. Look at all the other laughable crap like "Iranian" weapons caches found in Iraq with English printing on the crates or some nefarious plot to assassinate someone in Mexico or ...something.

    So who is behind this conspiracy?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/28/ap-iran-nuclear-bomb


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    I know this is no laughing matter, but the evidence and coersion is laughable.
    Binyamin-Netanyahu-UN-wit-004.jpg

    I like the prime ministers chart better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    I love the comment in the Guardian story, 'This means that not only Iran,but also aspiring Excel users on the internet,are plotting to develop nuclear weapons'.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    I am unsure what is right and what is wrong when it comes to all these stories but 80% of them appear to be propaganda. To justify war, arms industry, military budgets, to divert people away from other issues. Like, remember the time Clinton bombed Saddam and Serbia: to divert away media attention from Monica Lewinsky? Bush's wars: To make a dull man exciting?


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber



    As is more common than not , Israel.

    Fake AP Graph Exposes Israeli Fraud and IAEA Credulity

    http://www.lobelog.com/fake-ap-graph-exposes-israeli-fraud-and-iaea-credulity/


    Written by a genuine debunker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    FFS the warmonger aren't even trying anymore

    seriously tho that is some ropey science being displayed, do the 'unnamed country' who leaked this not realise that some people are. capable of figuring out stuff like this, jaysus even I spotted one of the incostinceys in that graph - kT wtf is that- god be good to the old days, when people wanted to stirr up national outrage to start a war they had to put in a bit of effort into the false flag operations
    sinking the lusitania to bring te US into WW1
    burning the reichstag (ok its/a stretch but ya know what I mean)
    launching torpedoes in tne gulf of tonkin to escalate Vietnam
    encouraging saddam to invade kuwait
    arming and training binladen

    see there was actual effort put into those

    its like they gave up trying on this one


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    Tzar Chasm wrote: »
    FFS the warmonger aren't even trying anymore

    seriously tho that is some ropey science being displayed, do the 'unnamed country' who leaked this not realise that some people are. capable of figuring out stuff like this, jaysus even I spotted one of the incostinceys in that graph - kT wtf is that- god be good to the old days, when people wanted to stirr up national outrage to start a war they had to put in a bit of effort into the false flag operations
    sinking the lusitania to bring te US into WW1
    burning the reichstag (ok its/a stretch but ya know what I mean)
    launching torpedoes in tne gulf of tonkin to escalate Vietnam
    encouraging saddam to invade kuwait
    arming and training binladen

    see there was actual effort put into those

    its like they gave up trying on this one

    Yes, indeed all the above have been what has happened. Up until the 1970s, there was NO PROBLEM whatsoever between Islam and the West. Up until the 1940s, there was NO PROBLEM between Arab nationalism and the West. Up until the 1970s, this Talibanistic form of Islam was not mainstream. What happened? Israel, interfering in countries, cold war politics is what happened!

    Yes, bin Laden was armed to the teeth by the West to keep Russia (USSR) bogged down in Afghanistan in the 1980s. Yes, the West encouraged fringe Islamic extremists to move to consume moderate Islam and become the defining force in Islam. Why? It firstly scared the Russians and secondly would eventually turn most people in the Middle East against Islam. Moderate Islam was fast overtaking the West's favourite creed, Christianity, afterall and that had to be ended!

    Iran is a strange setup. A closet ally of the West and Israel that pretends to be otherwise. A bulwark against Arabs for both. The regime in Iran keeps Iran poor and backward, exactly what the West (and Russia and China too) want because the superpower club don't want any newcomers! By the mid 1970s, Iran had a serious chance of becoming the third major superpower in the world in the near future. Shah Pahlavi was fast coming out from being a mere Western stooge to being an independent man. It was time for the West to install a new regime and in 1979 did. The so-called Islamic Republic of Iran has at ALL times given the West exactly what its wants: keeps Iran poor (via a prolonged war against Iraq), backward (through penal laws imposed to keep the people down) makes Iranians hate Islam (the penal laws are associated with Islam by the regime that sets itself up using bougt and paid for Islamic priests to front for it), turns Iran's population into the most pro-West in the region, gives the West a handy excuse for their arms industry when real Western enemies have been got rid of, and keeps a poor image of Islam in the media. Unlike the Taliban and al Qaeda - who came back and bit the West - Iran's regime are a cooperative partner who spout rhetoric in public and give the West all they need in private. You will never see Iran and the West hurt one and other and they always are on the same side when it matters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Tell you what Israel. When you hand over your nukes and allow inspections you can preach about Iran developing anything nuclear. The only threat to the stability of the middle east I see is the filthy zionist and the monkeys who back them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Tell you what Israel. When you hand over your nukes and allow inspections you can preach about Iran developing anything nuclear. The only threat to the stability of the middle east I see is the filthy zionist and the monkeys who back them.

    The whole thing is anti-Arab you see. Note the VERY different treatment of Middle East countries by the West:

    Israel can DO anything they like and at worst will receive mild codemnation and at best and most often FULL support. They treat Palestine very poorly, have waged war and fomented trouble there and have at various times went to war against Lebanon, Egypt, Syria and others. Israel's regime is not representative of the population as a whole.

    Iran can SAY anything they like and have DONE certain things (where hostages were taken but NO ONE ever died!) and always only received a warning. The West never attacked it over the 34 years of existence of the current regime. Like Israel, Iran's regime is not representative of its PERSIAN people (the regime has tried to Arabise the country so this non-Arab nation can be equated as another Arab one).

    Turkey stay largely apolitical and tow the Western line which means they are friendly to Iran and to a certain extent Israel.

    Everyone else gets attacked if they even say anything. Saddam's Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc.


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