bad tire thread. summer and all season

corkgsxr

What tires have you bought that you weren't happy with

On what car and what you disliked about them


Summer and all season only

CiniO

Chinese
To be precise - Infinity.

When I moved to Ireland I discovered whole Mayo drives on Chinese tyres. So I though that they can't all be wrong, and I got a set of Infitiy's for myself.
Jeeeezas.. They were absolutely mad. No grip at all on wet. This was the first and last set of Chinese tyres I purchased.

Senna

If you never heard of them, 99.9999% of the time they're Chinese rubbish.

I'll never forget a car pulling into the garage bay beside me as I getting tyres on my car, i was getting Bridgstone R*** (forget the model) on a 1ltr Yaris and he was getting Nankangs on his 200bhp+ WRX. And people wonder why there are so many accidents on Donegal roads.

kilianmanning

triangles = deathtraps

dgt

Doublestar. Absolute muck

corkgsxr

I do tend to go by the "if you don't recognise the brand, avoid it"

I didn't find infinity great either.


Also amazing how many people think sure tires are tires

Alanstrainor

corkgsxr wrote: »

I do tend to go by the "if you don't recognise the brand, avoid it"

I didn't find infinity great either.


Also amazing how many people think sure tires are tires

Not necessarily, plenty of tires, Kuhmo and the likes that most wont know which are highly regarded. Just do your research.

corkgsxr

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Not necessarily, plenty of tires, Kuhmo and the likes that most wont know which are highly regarded. Just do your research.

Ah I'd know most common ones but you can't believe the tire guys

Ya there grand iv them on my own car.

Sur all the taxi drivers use them

Etc etc

Very annoying when you buy new tires and they turn out to be ****.

Pottler

Ones I like tend to be Vredestein, ones i dislike tend to not be Vredestein. There's Firestones on the missus's car and they're good, but I've had some awful crap fited to vans over the years, assured by tyremen that they were "great tyres, great price". I now believe unless you wince when you get the bill, you'll wince on the first wet bend you hit doing a bit of speed.

Cungi

dgt wrote: »

Doublestar. Absolute muck

Totally agree. In fact i'd say dangerous in the wet.
With these i got understeer goin around roundabouts...at 30kph!

dgt

Cungi wrote: »

Totally agree. In fact i'd say dangerous in the wet.
With these i got understeer goin around roundabouts...at 30kph!

I ain't the only one so!

Horrific squealing and understeer in the dry, no grip in the wet. High speeds were a no no.

I gladly burned them off the car

dgt

dgt wrote: »

I ain't the only one so!

Horrific squealing and understeer in the dry, no grip in the wet. High speeds were a no no.

I gladly burned them off the car

I had Doublestars under my current car when I bought it and had to get them replaced with plenty of thread left. They were shockingly bad in wet, literally like driving on black ice. Bit of a laugh at the same time though.

Toyotafanboi

had a set of "runway" tyres. awful awful yokes, average in the dry, borderline doangerous in the wet.

went to advance a few weeks ago, asked for a good brand name tyres, the only thing they had were "barums"... "but they're made by bridgestone so they are just as good".

went to fast fit, the fitted firestones for only a fiver more per corner (afair)than advance wanted for barums. happy now

KTRIC

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

had a set of "runway" tyres. awful awful yokes, average in the dry, borderline doangerous in the wet.

went to advance a few weeks ago, asked for a good brand name tyres, the only thing they had were "barums"... "but they're made by bridgestone so they are just as good".

went to fast fit, the fitted firestones for only a fiver more per corner (afair)than advance wanted for barums. happy now

Barum tyres are made by Continental

Toyotafanboi

KTRIC wrote: »

Barum tyres are made by Continental

i am very sure they told me bridgestone.

regardless, i doubt they match the quality of their parent company.

Paddy001

Senna wrote: »

If you never heard of them, 99.9999% of the time they're Chinese rubbish.

I'll never forget a car pulling into the garage bay beside me as I getting tyres on my car, i was getting Bridgstone R*** (forget the model) on a 1ltr Yaris and he was getting Nankangs on his 200bhp+ WRX. And people wonder why there are so many accidents on Donegal roads.

He was probably putting them on the back though, there's plenty of fellas in high powered cars putting Nankang on the back, apparently they generate loads of smoke and last for ages, they keep Bridgestone or something on front then! :rolleyes: I have to say I like Michelin myself have found them great and Firestone are okay too. Had a few good Pirelli tyres too and a few terrible ones!

stimpson

One thing i have learned over the years is that most tyre monkeys know sweet FA about tyres.

Zubeneschamali

stimpson wrote: »

One thing i have learned over the years is that most tyre monkeys know sweet FA about tyres.

I'm not sure that is true. But either they know nothing about tyres or they have no problem lying their heads off about them.

Vicxas

I have some Stunner Scudos on my Corolla, Im not sure about them.... kinda afraid to push them. Especially in this weather.

deandean

I was looking at tyres online for my car.
Eiretyres offer
Star Performer HP
Nankang RX615
Sunny SN880
Fulda Carat Progresso
Nexen CP641
Kenda KR23
Marshal Matrac
Maxxis MA510
Vredestein Sportrac 3
Barum
Avon ZZ3.

Camskill offers
Vredestein Sportrac 3
Toyo CF1
Falken ZE912
Nankang XR611
Nexen CP641

Now the only brands I recognise out of that lot are Falken. So how do I choose a tyre, what is good and what is crud? All the sales & marketing on those two sites say they're all great, and indeed the grip, MPG & noise ratings are very similar across all brands.

The usual answer I guess is (like buying wine in a restaurant) go by price. Any ditchfinders in those brands?

Mycroft H

KTRIC wrote: »

Barum tyres are made by Continental

They're quite good too, they're on my clio

Bigcheeze

CiniO wrote: »

Chinese
To be precise - Infinity.

When I moved to Ireland I discovered whole Mayo drives on Chinese tyres. So I though that they can't all be wrong, and I got a set of Infitiy's for myself.
Jeeeezas.. They were absolutely mad. No grip at all on wet. This was the first and last set of Chinese tyres I purchased.

Infinity ? Does that refer to the stopping distance ?

TheBully

Paddy001 wrote: »

He was probably putting them on the back though, there's plenty of fellas in high powered cars putting Nankang on the back, apparently they generate loads of smoke and last for ages, they keep Bridgestone or something on front then! :rolleyes: I have to say I like Michelin myself have found them great and Firestone are okay too. Had a few good Pirelli tyres too and a few terrible ones!

Subaru WRX's are 4 wheel drive....

corkgsxr

deandean wrote: »

I was looking at tyres online for my car.
Eiretyres offer

Maxxis MA510
Vredestein Sportrac 3
Barum
Avon ZZ3.

should be fine

Camskill offers
Vredestein Sportrac 3
Toyo CF1
Falken ZE912

again id be happy to try

Now the only brands I recognise out of that lot are Falken. So how do I choose a tyre, what is good and what is crud? All the sales & marketing on those two sites say they're all great, and indeed the grip, MPG & noise ratings are very similar across all brands.

The usual answer I guess is (like buying wine in a restaurant) go by price. Any ditchfinders in those brands?

cant be relyed on, what if your being sold a expensive **** tire. they could charge alot for ****e

Bigcheeze wrote: »

Infinity ? Does that refer to the stopping distance ?

general grip is ok but not great

TheBully

deandean wrote: »

I was looking at tyres online for my car.
Eiretyres offer
Star Performer HP
Nankang RX615
Sunny SN880
Fulda Carat Progresso
Nexen CP641
Kenda KR23
Marshal Matrac
Maxxis MA510
Vredestein Sportrac 3
Barum
Avon ZZ3.

Camskill offers
Vredestein Sportrac 3
Toyo CF1
Falken ZE912
Nankang XR611
Nexen CP641

Now the only brands I recognise out of that lot are Falken. So how do I choose a tyre, what is good and what is crud? All the sales & marketing on those two sites say they're all great, and indeed the grip, MPG & noise ratings are very similar across all brands.

The usual answer I guess is (like buying wine in a restaurant) go by price. Any ditchfinders in those brands?

Star Performer HP ---Chinese crap
Nankang RX615 ---- Best of the chinese crap
Sunny SN880

---

More chinese rubbish
Fulda Carat Progresso ---- Budget german tyres, Middle of the road stuff
Nexen CP641 -- Singapore made, Budget tyre but suprisingly decent quality
Kenda KR23

---

Stay away, chinese muck
Marshal Matrac ---- Cheap, ok on an old starlet or something....
Maxxis MA510 -- Budget tyre of decent quality, Suprisingly decent
Vredestein Sportrac 3 --- Dutch,Top of the Range, as good as u get
Barum --- made by continental, good quality mid range tyre
Avon ZZ3. -- Uk tyre owned by the yanks! another top brand of excellent quality

Camskill offers
Vredestein Sportrac 3 -- As above
Toyo CF1 ---- Japans finest, Can be expensive but u get what u pay for
Falken ZE912 --- another top japanese tyre more known for sport tyres but u wont go wrong.
Nankang XR611 --- as above
Nexen CP641 ---as above

drunkmonkey

I can't even find my brand on Goolge, must be secret service issue, better keep the brand to myself.

dgt

Austone, rockstone, wan-li, kingstar, speedway.... More crap, all dangerous!

TheBully

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I can't even find my brand on Goolge, must be secret service issue, better keep the brand to myself.

Wats your brand, Im a tyre man, Il give u an Honest description....Promise

TheBully

dgt wrote: »

Austone, rockstone, wan-li, kingstar, speedway.... More crap, all dangerous!

The worst one iv stocked with the best name were GoodRide

Mycroft H

dgt wrote: »

Austone

There fine, had them on the Xantia when we got it. Never felt the need for more grip. Little bit noiser then then Verdsteins that replaced them when worn. was the only bad thing

dgt

Bad experiences with Austone in the wet. Granted nowhere near as bad as Doubleratsstar but poor enough

Mycroft H

dgt wrote: »

Bad experiences with Austone in the wet. Granted nowhere near as bad as Doubleratsstar but poor enough

Must be different variants of the tyre so. I was actually surprised with them tbh.

ninty9er

I'm not sure about the tyres I have on my car. It's cold so I've no intention of going to check what they are, but they certainly don't compare to the Vredesteins I had on the one I traded in.

I'd change them now if I could afford it, but I'll more than likely do it when they're down to 2.5-3mm

Vicxas

Does anyone know anything about the stunners? I cant find anything really

BostonB

Roadstone, simply lethal.

At the time I couldn't get anything else. No where had stock of tyres I'd heard off. Had a set of Pirelli P600 another time wasn't impressed with those either. Problem is trying to get a decent tyre in stock at anything like a decent price is often nigh impossible. Ask for a all season tyre and 99/100 time they'll offer you some chinese summer tyre.

Or if they do give you a known brand asking for the model number and they think you are crazy.

MuppetCheck

Federal Super steel 595s. Awful, dry or wet.

I noticed in a dealer during the week a new car coming on nexen tyres.

Paddy001

TheBully wrote: »

Subaru WRX's are 4 wheel drive....

Yes I had realised that, but I've still come across plenty of muppets doing this regardless of the car being 4WD!

Mycroft H

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Federal Super steel 595s. Awful, dry or wet.

I noticed in a dealer during the week a new car coming on nexen tyres.

Really? Surely they weren't the set fitted in the factory?

drunkmonkey

TheBully wrote: »

Wats your brand, Im a tyre man, Il give u an Honest description....Promise

Was spelling it wrong that's why I couldn't find it there Accelera, i've 225/40/18's on the front and 255/35/18 on the back. Would love some Michelin but at the rate I go through tyres I would have already spent 2 grand this year on them.

enumbers

This thread covers why tyre dealers sell such crap people really have no idea about there tyres, They keep asking about cheaper cheaper and even cheaper. was pricing around for a customer recently and was looking for something mid range and kept trying to get sold nakangs, infinitys etc.. People really don't no what there paying for. The new labelling system may start to help can but hope.

TheBully

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Was spelling it wrong that's why I couldn't find it there Accelera, i've 225/40/18's on the front and 255/35/18 on the back. Would love some Michelin but at the rate I go through tyres I would have already spent 2 grand this year on them.

Accelera's are a budget brand, we sell for €75 each in a 225/40x18, Michelin in that size would be up on 160 or so!

TheBully

enumbers wrote: »

This thread covers why tyre dealers sell such crap people really have no idea about there tyres, They keep asking about cheaper cheaper and even cheaper. was pricing around for a customer recently and was looking for something mid range and kept trying to get sold nakangs, infinitys etc.. People really don't no what there paying for. The new labelling system may start to help can but hope.

Its all about supply and demand, People ring up pricing and 85% of people want the cheapest deal they can get! If i say to some one over the phone i have 4 Bridgestone there for 150 each or i have 4 roadstone there for 70 each.. people will choose the roadstone!

Budget tyres have only come big since the recession and trust me, garages would prefer to be selling the higher end/ Mid range stuff cos theres actually more money in it! if 1 garage starts selling cheap sh1t, everyone has to!

Until people are prepared to spend an extra few euro to get decent quality tyres, we will always have budget crap!
It all comes back to the recession

drunkmonkey

TheBully wrote: »

Accelera's are a budget brand, we sell for €75 each in a 225/40x18, Michelin in that size would be up on 160 or so!

Paid about €120 fitted each as far as I can remember:(

TheBully

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Paid about €120 fitted each as far as I can remember:(

U prob bought in dublin, Much better value down the country!

drunkmonkey

No down the country, it was the only place that had my size shoes the day I needed them.

TheBully

drunkmonkey wrote: »

No down the country, it was the only place that had my size shoes the day I needed them.

must have had big windows

CJhaughey

Looked at a Fiesta today with Jinyu YH11 tyres on it, I could push the tyre so much with my foot that it would roll right off the rim, this was with 30psi in it.
There seemed to be a lack of sidewal rigidity or something like that.
Another car with Jinyu YH12 didn't seem to have the same issue.
I don't think I would be trusting Jinyu tyres too much.

corkgsxr

Chinese are notorious for bad quality control.

Needs close monitoring or it goes terrible.

Saying that Pirelli also have bad quality control.

ninty9er

Turns out there's Federal's on all 4 corners of my car...it's looking like an expensive February...there goes my bonus!


On the "willing to spend a few more quid comment, my mother sent me to get Conti Ecos for her Yaris and I just paid the extra myself to put Vredesteins on it.

Why is it that people do not realise that tyres are the most important component on their car. The rest of the bits are pretty useless without them. you can even use them without an engine!

corkgsxr

ninty9er wrote: »

Turns out there's Federal's on all 4 corners of my car...it's looking like an expensive February...there goes my bonus!


On the "willing to spend a few more quid comment, my mother sent me to get Conti Ecos for her Yaris and I just paid the extra myself to put Vredesteins on it.

Why is it that people do not realise that tyres are the most important component on their car. The rest of the bits are pretty useless without them. you can even use them without an engine!

What's wrong with conti's? Not a fan of eco tires but they should be decent