IPTV Box for RTE overseas

dougdub

Hi folks,

Can anyone point me in the direction of a good iptv media box that has rte streamed? some of the ex pat sites i found are selling for silly money €300+

Thanks!

watty

No, because it involves illegal proxies/vpns.

dougdub

Oh - i thought it was a mediabox pulling in the rte player which is fine? like the LG smart TV that has BBC iPlayer etc.

univer

I have the same question and have a separate thread started but so far no replies. Slingbox would seem to be the answer but am not sure

Technocentral

Loads of dns services, just get one of them.

garrycann78

i will----if you could get your hands on a cheap apple tv 1 or 2 then you can stream rte through these.

watty

Apple TV is brain dead locked over priced product. Plenty of better media boxes cheaper. None will reliably let you have RTE without paying for a proxy/VPN illegal service that could be shut down after you pay.

watty

dougdub wrote: »

Oh - i thought it was a mediabox pulling in the rte player which is fine? like the LG smart TV that has BBC iPlayer etc.

Only if the RTE player content works already on your computer. Much BBC content won't work in Ireland.

ted1

watty wrote: »

Apple TV is brain dead locked over priced product. Plenty of better media boxes cheaper. None will reliably let you have RTE without paying for a proxy/VPN illegal service that could be shut down after you pay.

it is actually illegal to ise a proxy or VPN. i seriously doubt it.

I've worked in various companies who's severs are outside Ireland and hence the external IP address is from aforeign country.

in fact 5 minutesd ago I connected to acompany in Navan and ended up with a sweedish IP address as thats where the IT is based.

watty

It's not illegal per se to use Proxies or VPN. But using it fraudulently may be depending on the country you are in. If you pay a sub to use it and they are "shut down" as is frequent, you lose your money.


I use a VPN if using a WiFi Hot spot to access email securely via my home server and home ISP. That is a legitimate use, as are corporate office set ups.

djimi

Whats fraudulant about it? If I sign up for a VPN/DNS service for more secure browsing, and a consequence of that is that I am able to access the US content on Netflix for example, then how it is breaking any law? (Im only playing devils advocate btw)

icdg

You are breaking the terms and conditions of service. If you are using a VPN to receive programmes outside of the broadcast areas the broadcasters are entitled to take measures to ensure you do not recieve the programmes. You are not entitled to complain if they do so.

The broadcasters are not authorized by their programme suppliers to distribute the content to you. Its the if everyone did it thing again. You might feel you are doing no harm. But if everyone did it, then the broadcasters would be forced by their rights holders to close down the service. Its just like pirating cable, when the dodgyboxes were widespread, the dodgeybox users thought they were doing no harm and saving themselves so money. But if everyone had bought a dodgeybox, NTL would have closed down the digital service because would have had no income from it.

OP the Roku box (www.roku.com) legitimately streams TV3 programmes for a subscription fee, if its any help to you.

ted1

ICDG,


streaming RTE is not like usign a Dodgy box. the dodgy box used a PAid service for free.

RTE is free to AIR. they do not make there revenue from passign on the content to the end user.

icdg

ted1 wrote: »

RTE is free to AIR. they do not make there revenue from passign on the content to the end user.

They do, through the licence fee, but also through the sale of advertisements.

But you've missed my point entirely. Its not RTÉ you're hurting here. The most that will happen to RTÉ is that they will be forced to withdraw the RTÉ Player which is probably still a loss leader anyway. Rather, its the rights holders for the content you're trying to view on the RTÉ Player in the jurisdiction that you live in. Since RTÉ makes as much of its own content available internationally anyway, I can only assume that you're trying to view sporting content or foreign programming, which you should be viewing on the rights holder in the jurisdiction you live in. By viewing these on the RTÉ player your depriving said rights holder of advertising and/or subscription revenue.

dueyfinster

icdg wrote: »

They do, through the licence fee, but also through the sale of advertisements.

But you've missed my point entirely. Its not RTÉ you're hurting here. The most that will happen to RTÉ is that they will be forced to withdraw the RTÉ Player which is probably still a loss leader anyway. Rather, its the rights holders for the content you're trying to view on the RTÉ Player in the jurisdiction that you live in. Since RTÉ makes as much of its own content available internationally anyway, I can only assume that you're trying to view sporting content or foreign programming, which you should be viewing on the rights holder in the jurisdiction you live in. By viewing these on the RTÉ player your depriving said rights holder of advertising and/or subscription revenue.

Therein lies the problem, the model of broadcasting has not caught up to reality of the internet. To say it's illegal to stream over a VPN is FUD as far as I know - unless someone can show us how it's not? Unethical perhaps and a breach of terms of sefvice (which are as effective legally as EULAs I understand). Also as stated above you can be blocked by the broadcaster, but from my experience it's never happened (I don't think they waste too much time on the issue). They do just enough to appease rights holders. Geo Blocking has never been and never will be 100% effective. Like DRM, it's about blocking casual users - it never blocks determined users.

ted1

icdg wrote: »

You are breaking the terms and conditions of service.

where are these terms and conditions?

can't see anywhere here that says you can't watch from outside the state.

http://www.rte.ie/about/en/serving-our-audience/2012/0815/333706-terms-and-conditions-for-rte-ie/

zg3409

Some of RTEs content is available when outside ROI. I wish is was more (like all Irish produced content) but definitely some of it works.

The most flexible setup would be a PC connected to a TV via HDMI.

munchkin_utd

icdg wrote: »

They do, through the licence fee, but also through the sale of advertisements.

But you've missed my point entirely. Its not RTÉ you're hurting here. The most that will happen to RTÉ is that they will be forced to withdraw the RTÉ Player which is probably still a loss leader anyway. Rather, its the rights holders for the content you're trying to view on the RTÉ Player in the jurisdiction that you live in. Since RTÉ makes as much of its own content available internationally anyway, I can only assume that you're trying to view sporting content or foreign programming, which you should be viewing on the rights holder in the jurisdiction you live in. By viewing these on the RTÉ player your depriving said rights holder of advertising and/or subscription revenue.

Complete none sense to be honest.
RTE makes next to no content available worldwide compared to what is available to Irish internet users.

About 3 years ago the difference was minimal with what you could get in ireland and abroad but now aside from the news, lotto and religious programming theres very little available to the users abroad.

Anyhow, the slingbox is reasonably reliable but you do need a decent upload speed on the irish side.

icdg

munchkin_utd wrote: »

Complete none sense to be honest.
RTE makes next to no content available worldwide compared to what is available to Irish internet users.

About 3 years ago the difference was minimal with what you could get in ireland and abroad but now aside from the news, lotto and religious programming theres very little available to the users abroad.

I was under the impression that all RTÉ-produced programming other than sports and some scripted programming (e.g. Fair City) was available internationally. But I live in Ireland, so I can't confirm for certain so maybe someone can list whats available.

At any rate, its a lot more than the BBC make available, which is strictly news only. And you are effectively getting it for free, we in Ireland have to pay the licence fee.

galait

Overplay have been around for years and no sign of it being "Shut Down" , I suggest a Slingbox as it removes lots of issues and I have been using one since 2005 and 8 years later still perfect just improves with speed increase and I have people from Canada and Oz who use it on and off and they love it.

7upfree

watty wrote: »

Apple TV is brain dead locked over priced product. Plenty of better media boxes cheaper. None will reliably let you have RTE without paying for a proxy/VPN illegal service that could be shut down after you pay.

Maybe for what's required here. Otherwise it is a sweet, seamless device which bring the Apple eco system together nicely.

smee again

7upfree wrote: »

Maybe for what's required here. Otherwise it is a sweet, seamless device which bring the Apple eco system together nicely.

Is a miles better box when you hack it and put non proprietary XBMC on it.

icdg

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