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Dealer sold second hand car.

  • 28-11-2012 8:41am
    #1
    RangeR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭


    Does SOGSOS apply to dealer sold second hand cars?

    So if a vehicle was purchased a week and half ago, and has to be jumped every two or three days [with a good 20 km run just after each jump], be returned to dealer for resolution?

    Edit : Dealer specifically wrote "one month warranty on engine and gearbox" on receipt . Don't think that makes a difference.


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  • #2
    Procrastastudy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭Procrastastudy


    If sold in the course of a business a full set of consumer rights apply - bearing in mind what is reasonable for the age of the car.

    If sold privately the car must be safe to drive only.

    I'm open to correction on the above but pretty sure that's how it stands.


  • #3
    RangeR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭RangeR


    Procrastastudy wrote: »
    If sold in the course of a business a full set of consumer rights apply - bearing in mind what is reasonable for the age of the car.

    If sold privately the car must be safe to drive only.

    I'm open to correction on the above but pretty sure that's how it stands.

    Yeah, it was sold in the course of business and is an 04 [I think]. The damn thing just won't start. Not the battery as the internal lights are good.
    One would expect, at the very least, that the engine would start.

    /me thinks it maybe something expensive.


  • #4
    Procrastastudy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭Procrastastudy


    RangeR wrote: »
    Yeah, it was sold in the course of business and is an 04 [I think]. The damn thing just won't start. Not the battery as the internal lights are good.
    One would expect, at the very least, that the engine would start.

    /me thinks it maybe something expensive.

    Do cars still have alternators? That's what happened to a car I had many moons ago - same sort of symptoms. Not that I know the first thing about engines.


  • #5
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    RangeR wrote: »
    Yeah, it was sold in the course of business and is an 04 [I think]. The damn thing just won't start. Not the battery as the internal lights are good.
    One would expect, at the very least, that the engine would start.

    /me thinks it maybe something expensive.
    Sounds like a problem with the alternator. Bring it back to the dealer.


  • #6
    Pkiernan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    Its the battery, not the alternator.

    Put a new one in, and your problem will be solved.


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  • #7
    slimjimmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    RangeR wrote: »
    Yeah, it was sold in the course of business and is an 04 [I think]. The damn thing just won't start. Not the battery as the internal lights are good.
    One would expect, at the very least, that the engine would start.

    /me thinks it maybe something expensive.

    Starter motors are high load devices. The battery could still run internal lights but not be able to deliver enough to current to operate the starter.

    Check the leads on the battery terminals, they might just need reseating or tightening.

    A low charge in the battery may be caused by a dud battery or a faulty alternator, so either Pkiernan or Foggy_lad could be right with their diagnosis.


  • #8
    eirator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭eirator


    An 04 car on the original battery, they don't last for ever? I'd start by replacing the battery. Dealers don't always know the state of the battery on a second hand car because they don't expect it to be charged 100%, if the car has been sitting on a forecourt, they probably jumped it themselves and thought nothing of it.

    Test with the headlamps on full not the interior lights, if they go dim in a few seconds with the engine off then the battery isn't holding enough charge.


  • #9
    chris85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,502 ✭✭✭chris85


    RangeR wrote: »
    Yeah, it was sold in the course of business and is an 04 [I think]. The damn thing just won't start. Not the battery as the internal lights are good.
    One would expect, at the very least, that the engine would start.

    /me thinks it maybe something expensive.

    Most likely the battery. Internal lights can be fine but if there is not enough charge in the battery to start the engine (which is a lot more than keeping a few lights going) then its the battery which needs replacing.


  • #10
    RangeR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭RangeR


    eirator wrote: »
    An 04 car on the original battery, they don't last for ever? I'd start by replacing the battery. Dealers don't always know the state of the battery on a second hand car because they don't expect it to be charged 100%, if the car has been sitting on a forecourt, they probably jumped it themselves and thought nothing of it.

    Test with the headlamps on full not the interior lights, if they go dim in a few seconds with the engine off then the battery isn't holding enough charge.

    No idea if it's the original battery. Anyway, it's out of my hands. Dealer agreed with "her indoors" to replace the battery tomorrow.


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