[Iriah Rail] 26-11 18:13 Service from Tara Street to Maynooth

n0brain3r

Hi all,

I planned on catching this service last night but it never showed in Tara street at least. The Irish rail guy on the platform just shrugged his shoulders and said I must of missed it but I was there from about 17:55 and never saw it.

I think a couple of Dundalk and Dart services passed while I was there plus it never appeared on the RTI screens.

I ended up on the 18:33 service anyway I might be making this journey again later this week does anyone know if the service exists?

Thanks,
NB

goingnowhere

That train is destined for Longford, and it did run last night and it was on time...

schemingbohemia

Ideal user name for OP.

n0brain3r

goingnowhere wrote: »

That train is destined for Longford, and it did run last night and it was on time...

Thanks I saw it alright! I didn't think commuter services went that far can't imagine those trains are very comfortable for a 2 hour journey.

For someone unfamiliar with the service going by the Irish rail site how would you know to get the Longford train? I entered Tara to Maynooth on the trip planner and got this. I would of expected to be told the trains ultimate destination was Longford or am I expecting too much?

goingnowhere

Seriously, the platform display would have said either all stations to Longford or listed them all off one by one, there would have been an automatic announcement listing all stations served on both the platform and on train

GLaDOS

goingnowhere wrote: »

would have said either all stations to Longford

If you didn't know Maynooth was on the route to Longford this wouldn't have been much use in fairness.

Hilly Bill

I give up at this stage

Hilly Bill

ScienceNerd wrote: »

If you didn't know Maynooth was on the route to Longford this wouldn't have been much use in fairness.

It would when the display says that the train stops in Maynooth .

n0brain3r

I was pretty far from them so could just make out the actual destination plus I think it was some message about lifts scrolling on the bottom when I did see it but I could be wrong.

I'm not trying to blame anyone it was my fault but I don't think I was helped or given any indication that a commuter service that terminates in Maynooth on the vast majority of services would be any different on this service.

It's not going to happen to me again but I wonder how many people are caught by not knowing every stop on the Sligo line?

Polar101

Hilly Bill wrote: »

It would when the display says that the train stops in Maynooth .

Yep, but if you're waiting for the Maynooth train, you aren't necessarily interested in reading where the Longford train stops. Would help if irishrail.ie listed the destination of the train.

schemingbohemia

ScienceNerd wrote: »

If you didn't know Maynooth was on the route to Longford this wouldn't have been much use in fairness.

Polar101 wrote: »

Yep, but if you're waiting for the Maynooth train, you aren't necessarily interested in reading where the Longford train stops. Would help if irishrail.ie listed the destination of the train.

The two of you are defending the indefensible.

The OP didn't bother his hoop looking at the perfectly clear electronic signs stating all the stops on the route.

If the person was going to Leixlip would they expect the train to only say Leixlip on it?

bikeman1

Oh no!! I have left the Dundalk train go everyday, don't tell it stops at Malahide? I thought only the DART stopped there!!

If you can't manage the train, I would hate to see you try the bus!

Hilly Bill

Polar101 wrote: »

Yep, but if you're waiting for the Maynooth train, you aren't necessarily interested in reading where the Longford train stops. Would help if irishrail.ie listed the destination of the train.

You would if you knew that your train was due at the same time. Its why the OP missed it. It would have been easy enough to find out the destination of the train that the OP was looking for at the time that he or she was on the Irish Rail site.
Do you honestly think that the Irish Rail website doesnt list the destination of the trains????????

Hilly Bill

n0brain3r wrote: »

I was pretty far from them so could just make out the actual destination plus I think it was some message about lifts scrolling on the bottom when I did see it but I could be wrong.

I'm not trying to blame anyone it was my fault but I don't think I was helped or given any indication that a commuter service that terminates in Maynooth on the vast majority of services would be any different on this service.

It's not going to happen to me again but I wonder how many people are caught by not knowing every stop on the Sligo line?

The next time ask a member of staff if they would be kind enough to put you on your train if you have difficulty or ask them for the timetable to Maynooth or better still get the times for Sligo. Have a look at the trains that stop in Tara street and stop in Maynooth . Take note that Longford and Sligo could be the final destination of these trains but stops in Maynooth so make sure that you get off in Maynooth if thats where you want to go.

n0brain3r

schemingbohemia wrote: »

The two of you are defending the indefensible.

The OP didn't bother his hoop looking at the perfectly clear electronic signs stating all the stops on the route.

If the person was going to Leixlip would they expect the train to only say Leixlip on it?

I don't catch the train often and wasn't aware that I needed to monitor it given every other train I've ever caught to Maynooth had Maynooth or Sligo on the front and the RTI board. I've managed to use it a couple of times a month for the last five years and not know about the Londford service!

I guess my mistake was a perceived familiarity with the service and as for someone traveling to Leixlip if they do so infrequently I'm sure they'd expect the train to be destined for Maynooth too. Out of 40 plus services to Maynooth each day 3 serve it via Longford so it's hardly the norm.

Ultimately I think the journey planner could of been clearer and stated that the trains destination was Longford surely no one disagrees with that?

n0brain3r

Hilly Bill wrote: »

You would if you knew that your train was due at the same time. Its why the OP missed it. It would have been easy enough to find out the destination of the train that the OP was looking for at the time that he or she was on the Irish Rail site.
Do you honestly think that the Irish Rail website doesnt list the destination of the trains????????

Please trains arrive every few minutes at that hour going by that logic you could end up anywhere!

I never said the site didn't list the destination but the journey planner gives no indication this service is different to the 30 other Maynooth commuters each day

Hilly Bill

n0brain3r wrote: »

Please trains arrive every few minutes at that hour going by that logic you could end up anywhere!

I never said the site didn't list the destination but the journey planner gives no indication this service is different to the 30 other Maynooth commuters each day

The time table is on the website , a quick look on there would have solved your problem.
Firstly make sure that you are on the right platform.
You know that your train is due, you look at the screen and notice that it says the next train goes to Dundalk, you dont know if Maynooth is on the way to Dundalk so you look at the bottom of the screen to see where the train stops. You cant see Maynooth listed for that train so you dont get on it. The next train comes up and says Longford so you repeat the same process, you see Maynooth listed as one of the stops and you get on the train when it pulls in.
If all else fails, ask an adult.

n0brain3r

bikeman1 wrote: »

Oh no!! I have left the Dundalk train go everyday, don't tell it stops at Malahide? I thought only the DART stopped there!!

If you can't manage the train, I would hate to see you try the bus!

It's a different route so I'm not familiar is the Dundalk service the same? Only 3 each day in each direction?

I manage the bus perfectly well thanks typically they use route numbers and append a letter if the route or destination is any different than normal plus they have this strange concept of noting it on the journey planner!

Hilly Bill

n0brain3r wrote: »

I don't catch the train often and wasn't aware that I needed to monitor it given every other train I've ever caught to Maynooth had Maynooth or Sligo on the front and the RTI board. I've managed to use it a couple of times a month for the last five years and not know about the Londford service!

I guess my mistake was a perceived familiarity with the service and as for someone traveling to Leixlip if they do so infrequently I'm sure they'd expect the train to be destined for Maynooth too. Out of 40 plus services to Maynooth each day 3 serve it via Longford so it's hardly the norm.

Ultimately I think the journey planner could of been clearer and stated that the trains destination was Longford surely no one disagrees with that?

http://www.irishrail.ie/media/DublinMaynooth111.pdf

Hilly Bill

n0brain3r wrote: »

It's a different route so I'm not familiar is the Dundalk service the same? Only 3 each day in each direction?

I manage the bus perfectly well thanks typically they use route numbers and append a letter if the route or destination is any different than normal plus they have this strange concept of noting it on the journey planner!

Get yourself a timetable in Maynooth or print it off the website.

n0brain3r

Hilly Bill wrote: »

The time table is on the website , a quick look on there would have solved your problem.
Firstly make sure that you are on the right platform.
You know that your train is due, you look at the screen and notice that it says the next train goes to Dundalk, you don't know if Maynooth is on the way to Dundalk so you look at the bottom of the screen to see where the train stops. You cant see Maynooth listed for that train so you don't get on it. The next train comes up and says Longford so you repeat the same process, you see Maynooth listed as one of the stops and you get on the train when it pulls in.
If all else fails, ask an adult.

It would have but you have to go looking for it. If you click the timetable tab it brings you to the journey planner. Had I expected the service to be any different to the umpteen times I used it before I would of checked the sign. I'm just saying the planner could of been better and highlighted this service was different! That is all!

Vic_08

n0brain3r wrote: »

It would have but you have to go looking for it. If you click the timetable tab it brings you to the journey planner. Had I expected the service to be any different to the umpteen times I used it before I would of checked the sign. I'm just saying the planner could of been better and highlighted this service was different! That is all!

When I read this thread a while back I sort of felt sorry for you, yes you had made a dumb mistake and been ridiculed for it but everybody makes mistakes.

After reading your recent replies I no longer have any sympathy, you obviously are incapable of understanding that it is YOUR responsibility to manage YOUR affairs. The vast majority of people manage to cope with the information system in place and most of the minority that do encounter difficulty have the sense to ask either staff or others around them when faced with a problem. You appear not to and even when the sherlockian mystery of the disappearing 18.13 to Maynooth is explained you are determined to find someone else to blame.

I thought it was a bit harsh at the time but on reflection I think post#3 is spot on.

Hilly Bill

n0brain3r wrote: »

It would have but you have to go looking for it. If you click the timetable tab it brings you to the journey planner. Had I expected the service to be any different to the umpteen times I used it before I would of checked the sign. I'm just saying the planner could of been better and highlighted this service was different! That is all!

Just admit it was your fault instead of trying to blame someone else.

At the bottom of the web page, you will get a link to maps of the network plus all the time tables.

To answer your original question, that service does exist.

n0brain3r

Vic_08 wrote: »

When I read this thread a while back I sort of felt sorry for you, yes you had made a dumb mistake and been ridiculed for it but everybody makes mistakes.

After reading your recent replies I no longer have any sympathy, you obviously are incapable of understanding that it is YOUR responsibility to manage YOUR affairs. The vast majority of people manage to cope with the information system in place and most of the minority that do encounter difficulty have the sense to ask either staff or others around them when faced with a problem. You appear not to and even when the sherlockian mystery of the disappearing 18.13 to Maynooth is explained you are determined to find someone else to blame.

I thought it was a bit harsh at the time but on reflection I think post#3 is spot on.

I'm not sure where your coming from with this and why you think I want your sympathy I accepted it was my fault and asked a staff member where was the train and his response wasn't really helpful he could of told me it was the Londford service. I even thanked a couple of the most scathing posters when they provided useful info regardless of the tone it was delivered in.

Yes I should of looked at the RTI board in more detail but since 90% of Maynooth commuter services terminate in Maynooth and display the name on the front of the train I didn't think I had to so yes that was my fault.

I came on here to ask about the service and got my answer I then asked was I expecting too much from the journey planner to give the trains ultimate destination considering this service was far from the norm and got some smart answers

n0brain3r

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Just admit it was your fault instead of trying to blame someone else.

At the bottom of the web page, you will get a link to maps of the network plus all the time tables.

To answer your original question, that service does exist.

What is your problem I've already admitted it was my fault

All I said was the journey planner could of been more informative and your point about going to the timetable if you try access it via the site it just brings you to the journey planner unless you look for the small print at the bottom so again less than helpful. I accessed the site on my phone so the chances of seeing the link as opposed to the large Timetable tab are slim. I'm not trying to blame anyone.

Thanks again for the answer but it was answered in the second post and I've already acknowledged it

Hilly Bill

n0brain3r wrote: »

I'm not sure where your coming from with this and why you think I want your sympathy I accepted it was my fault and asked a staff member where was the train and his response wasn't really helpful he could of told me it was the Londford service. I even thanked a couple of the most scathing posters when they provided useful info regardless of the tone it was delivered in.

Yes I should of looked at the RTI board in more detail but since 99% of Maynooth commuter services terminate in Maynooth and display the name on the front of the train I didn't think I had to so yes that was my fault.

I came on here to ask about the service and got my answer I then asked was I expecting too much from the journey planner to give the trains ultimate destination considering this service was far from the norm and got some smart answers

The Journey planner gives you your options based on the starting location and your desired destination that you enter thats all .What service is far from the norm?
You didnt need to come on here to find your answer when the answer was easily found on the IR website. If you have used the service umpteen times before then why did you need a journey planner?

Hilly Bill

n0brain3r wrote: »

What is your problem I've already admitted it was my fault

All I said was the journey planner could of been more informative and your point about going to the timetable if you try access it via the site it just brings you to the journey planner unless you look for the small print at the bottom so again less than helpful. I accessed the site on my phone so the chances of seeing the link as opposed to the large Timetable tab are slim. I'm not trying to blame anyone.

Thanks again for the answer but it was answered in the second post and I've already acknowledged it

Go to the bottom of the page and click where it says
Timetables & Service Updates
Download Timetable PDFs ( you dont need to download it ).

There you will see all the timetable available. Open the Maynooth/Longford one and that will give you all the times. You can use the Sligo one as well , your one would read as the 18:18 from Connolly with the service starting in Bray .

n0brain3r

Hilly Bill wrote: »

The Journey planner gives you your options based on the starting location and your desired destination that you enter thats all .What service is far from the norm?
You didnt need to come on here to find your answer when the answer was easily found on the IR website. If you have used the service umpteen times before then why did you need a journey planner?

Out of 33 daily Maynooth commuter services all but 3 terminate in Maynooth maybe not the norm is the wrong phrase but the majority stop here that's all I'm saying. An * or something to indicate this service is different would be helpful.

I had checked the site and didn't think to seek out the printed out timetable I just used the interactive one and didn't find the answer so thought I'd ask in the C&T forum.

I used it because it lists all the trains to Maynooth quickly and fairly easily on the phone before yesterday it had never let me down!

n0brain3r

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Go to the bottom of the page and click where it says
Timetables & Service Updates
Download Timetable PDFs ( you dont need to download it ).

There you will see all the timetable available. Open the Maynooth/Longford one and that will give you all the times. You can use the Sligo one as well , your one would read as the 18:18 from Connolly with the service starting in Bray .

Thanks for the info but you're not getting my point I don't dispute that the info is there its just not very prominent and I'd hazard a guess that the bulk of people checking times use the planner rather than the pdf of the printed timetable.

I know now I should of gone for the pdf but even that isn't straight forward if you click the Timetables and Service Updates link the journey planner is at the top again. You have to select download the timetable pdfs to view which is counter intuitive on a phone

I know this is entirely my fault for not preparing better or not managing MY affairs as someone put it but I was catching a train not leaving the country and I'm just saying the site/Irish Rail could present the info on services better that's all.

Hilly Bill

n0brain3r wrote: »

Thanks for the info but you're not getting my point I don't dispute that the info is there its just not very prominent and I'd hazard a guess that the bulk of people checking times use the planner rather than the pdf of the printed timetable.

I know now I should of gone for the pdf but even that isn't straight forward if you click the Timetables and Service Updates link the journey planner is at the top again. You have to select download the timetable pdfs to view which is counter intuitive on a phone

I know this is entirely my fault for not preparing better or not managing MY affairs as someone put it but I was catching a train not leaving the country and I'm just saying the site/Irish Rail could present the info on services better that's all.

Nothing wrong with the site to be honest. Its simple, ask someone on the way through the station if you are not sure, dont be depending on your phone for info when all the relevant info is available to you there and then at the station.

"but I was catching a train not leaving the country "

Just as well

LXFlyer

Am I the only person who is finding this discussion rather pointless at this stage?

The OP has got the message!

thomasj

Believe it or not its actually a constant problem for Irish rail. At connolly despite the fact that no trains have been stopping at platforms 6 or 7 after 22.30 for over 10 years and despite the fact that the displays don't show any trains, people will still stand on the platform waiting on a train. Sometimes an audio announcement is not enough and staff have to walk over and tell them. Has been happening for years!

One of the guys at connolly also told me that when new directional signage was put up in a connolly including floor maps, the number of people asking for directions actually went up.

Its not uncommon for people to ask is this train going to Clonsilla maynooth or skerries etc. Okay the electronic displays may display the next stations but when you have tons of messages about lifts out of order or works going on, its easy not to spot these things.

Bear in mind that at blanchardstown shopping centre people are still getting the citybound 39/as on the wrong side despite huge signs at the stops saying its the other side. Also bear in mind people still ask does the bus (39a) go to the shopping centre despite it saying so at the front.

Hilly Bill

At least they are asking .