Glenageary R118 Roundabout (South Dublin) question?

LordSutch

So here's a question for drivers who know this particular roundabout, and only this roundabout . . .

Specifically regarding this^ roundabout, lets say you are driving along the Sallyglen road towards Dun Laoghaire, you approach the
Glenageary roundabout with the intention of going straight ahead and down the (newly surfaced) Glenageary road into Dun Laoghaire . . . .

So you approach the roundabout and you are taking the 3rd Exit, straight through and down the hill.

A/ Do you stay in the left lane and pass the 1st two Exits, then making a very exaggerated 90o sharp left hand turn down Glenageary road?

B/ Stay in the right hand lane out of trouble and take the natural course of (that) roundabout, safely as it would seem to the 3rd Exit?

I only ask because I got into an argument with another driver yesterday morning, he went round on the inside lane past the two exits (me in the Right lane), and then he just tries to squeeze in at the last minute! we beep horns, he opens his window and shouts something about the twelve O'Clock rule to which I had no reply! He may well be correct if the roundabout permitted that maneuver, but surely driving around this roundabout makes a mockery of that rule (if it is true)?

Personally I would take option B and stay in ther right hand lane, as it seems like the logical and less dangerous option. Staying in the left hand lane (and the whole way round passing the 1st two major exits) seems like madness to me, specially with the way that the island is designed at the top of the Glenageary road (exaggerated 90o left turn) and all that palava.

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So can anyone say for sure what lane is correct for this scenario on the Glenageary roundabout?
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fred funk }{

I would always use the right hand lane if taking that exit.

Cookie_Monster

After 12 oclock position so use right lane.

ironclaw

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

After 12 oclock position so use right lane.

I really have never, ever heard of that rule even though it seems widely talked about here.

I've always been taught that to take the third exit and greater take the right lane unless otherwise indicated by road signs. It would rare anyway to have more than two exits on a simple junction before "12 o'clock"

But as regards the question OP, the correct lane would be the right lane in my view.

LordSutch

Would be nice to have and AA man, Garda or a driving instructor on here, to give the official view.

ironclaw

LordSutch wrote: »

AA man

I have so little respect for Conor Faughnan. The utter rubbish they spout some times is laughable.

Theta

If its past the second exit I thought it was the right hand lane?

LordSutch

Theta wrote: »

If its past the second exit I thought it was the right hand lane?

Thats what I thought, so then whats all that 12 O'Clock stuff about?

cjt156

ironclaw wrote: »

I really have never, ever heard of that rule even though it seems widely talked about here.

Check out the Rules of the Road booklet or website.

Left lane for turning left or straight ahead (up to 12 o'clock), right lane for turning right (after 12 o'clock). No matter how many exits.

You were right OP. Looking at it on Google maps, the 12 o'clock rule would prove the other driver wrong, so no idea why he was spouting it.

cjt156

Theta wrote: »

If its past the second exit I thought it was the right hand lane?

Nope. Its right lane because its a right turn, no matter how many exits you've passed. Again Rules of the Road booklet or website.

Honestly lads this comes up every other week. Try reading up on it.

LordSutch

cjt156 wrote: »

Check out the Rules of the Road booklet or website.

Left lane for turning left or straight ahead (up to 12 o'clock), right lane for turning right (after 12 o'clock). No matter how many exits.

You were right OP. Looking at it on Google maps, the 12 o'clock rule would prove the other driver wrong, so no idea why he was spouting it.

Thanks for that cjt156, but just to clairfy we are talking about a Left hand turn at twelve O'Clock & down Glenageary road.

cjt156

Here?

Coming down the R118 to the roundabout and continuing along the R118 after? Don't you always turn left on leaving a roundabout?;)

LordSutch

Yes of course, its just that you mentioned turning right in post #9 which threw me )

Anyway, it looks to be pretty clear now, to stay in the right hand lane until exit three R118 is correct (for that roundabout).

Thread closed.

cjt156

LordSutch wrote: »

Yes of course, its just that you mentioned turning right in post #9 which threw me )

Because its after 12 o'clock it is, in effect, a right turn.

Zubeneschamali

ironclaw wrote: »

I've always been taught that to take the third exit and greater take the right lane unless otherwise indicated by road signs.

Yes, there was a dodgy edition of the Rules in the 90s that kinda said that, and many instructors taught it.

It was wrong.

LordSutch

cjt156 wrote: »

Because its after 12 o'clock it is, in effect, a right turn.

Many thanks for all your input cjt156, but I am now getting confused )

cheers for now.

AltAccount

Is this the route you took?

http://goo.gl/maps/hfrgK

LordSutch

Yes - in the right hand lane until I indicated left, then taking the 3rd Exit onto Glenageary Road lower & down the hill . . .

AltAccount

Then you were absolutely correct and the other driver is a tool.

Clav

I grew up in that area and know the junction very well.

The answer is that you stay in the right hand lane.

The reason I know this for certain is that several years ago I got pulled over at the roundabout on the other end of Sally Glen road by The Graduate pub by a garda. He accused me of being in the wrong lane going around the roundabout.

Happily I happened to have a rules of the road - with illustrations - in the car so we had a long conversation on the topic...... In the end I got an appology and sent along my way......