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parthenaise cattle

  • 26-11-2012 9:10pm
    #1
    case 956
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    sorry for starting a new thread for this but couldnt locate anything on the pathenaise bull ai code BZB

    can anyone tell me how long does this boy usually carry and is he easy calving


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  • #2
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    case 956 wrote: »
    sorry for starting a new thread for this but couldnt locate anything on the pathenaise bull ai code BZB

    can anyone tell me how long does this boy usually carry and is he easy calving

    290 days on my AA cows, very easy calving. Think 282/3 days on pedigree cows. Have him on Ch heifers this year calving at 28 months


  • #3
    case 956
    Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭case 956


    used him on a few freisan cows this yr


  • #4
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    case 956 wrote: »
    used him on a few freisan cows this yr
    Would make decent suckler cows you'd imagine


  • #5
    towzer2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 533 ✭✭✭towzer2010


    case 956 wrote: »
    sorry for starting a new thread for this but couldnt locate anything on the pathenaise bull ai code BZB

    can anyone tell me how long does this boy usually carry and is he easy calving

    I had a calf off him from a second calver ch cow @ 287 days. She calved on her own in minutes


  • #6
    carrollsno1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    what would calves be like when crossed with high percentage simmentals

    Better living everyone



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  • #7
    leg wax
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    carrollsno1 wrote: »
    what would calves be like when crossed with high percentage simmentals
    they had them at the ploughing this year and it did nothing for the part breed.


  • #8
    carrollsno1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    pardon

    Better living everyone



  • #9
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    towzer2010 wrote: »
    I had a calf off him from a second calver ch cow @ 287 days. She calved on her own in minutes

    What were the calves like off the Ch? Putting him on ch heifers myself next month


  • #10
    tismesoitis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    carrollsno1 wrote: »
    pardon
    there was at least one example of a part out of a sim cow on the part stand at the ploughin and it was not a very impressive exhibit.


  • #11
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    johnpawl wrote: »
    What were the calves like off the Ch? Putting him on ch heifers myself next month

    i wasnt happy with pt x ch, you might have one standout calf and 5 plain ones and alot of them seem to bring a very dark brown color with black eyes, they dont exactly fly in the ring, that said i had a few off white color ones that did ok


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  • #12
    pakalasa
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    What about the Parth bull Universal, UNI ?
    His figures look a lot better. Hard calving and poor docility though. His weanling figures (Calf quality) are in the top 1%.


  • #13
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    pakalasa wrote: »
    What about the Parth bull Universal, UNI ?
    His figures look a lot better. Hard calving and poor docility though. His weanling figures (Calf quality) are in the top 1% though.


    I'm not sure if you can get him easily pak. I asked for straws last year but my ai man couldn't get them. He eventually got 3 in a swap deal with someone.


  • #14
    towzer2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 533 ✭✭✭towzer2010


    johnpawl wrote: »
    What were the calves like off the Ch? Putting him on ch heifers myself next month

    Hi johnpawl.

    I put up a pic of her and the calf a few weeks back in the PIC thread here https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/307001/220733.JPG but here is the calf about a month ago before I put them in. She is the one on the right. She is like a LM in colour. I was happy enough with her so I gave the mother the same bull again.
    230860.JPG


  • #15
    leg wax
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    towzer2010 wrote: »
    Hi johnpawl.

    I put up a pic of her and the calf a few weeks back in the PIC thread here https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/307001/220733.JPG but here is the calf about a month ago before I put them in. She is the one on the right. She is like a LM in colour. I was happy enough with her so I gave the mother the same bull again.
    230860.JPG
    aren't computers great nowadays the way you can block out the tags and fill them back in:D


  • #16
    pakalasa
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    Would ye consider the Parthanaise a hardy breed, like the Limousin? Or would it be delicate enough?


  • #17
    vanderbadger
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    pakalasa wrote: »
    Would ye consider the Parthanaise a hardy breed, like the Limousin? Or would it be delicate enough?

    never noticed any difference in the ones i had to chars in terms of getting sick or anythng, they are probably a bit more lively at birth, mostly i found them quiet cattle, I had one bull weanling this year that got a nasty cut down in the joint of his foot, he was the quietest animal i ever had, you could lift his foot when he was in shed like a horse and he wouldnt move


  • #18
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    pakalasa wrote: »
    Would ye consider the Parthanaise a hardy breed, like the Limousin? Or would it be delicate enough?

    I've a couple of pedigree and they're treated the same as the rest out 'til lately in bad conditions, not a bother on them. Injecting them there lately I find it extremely hard to get the needle through their skin compared to the rest, maybe that works in their favour.


  • #19
    johnpawl
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    vanderbadger wrote: »
    i wasnt happy with pt x ch, you might have one standout calf and 5 plain ones and alot of them seem to bring a very dark brown color with black eyes, they dont exactly fly in the ring, that said i had a few off white color ones that did ok

    I wonder would the likes of those heifers be a good buy to breed good blue calves?
    Or if you put pt back on them...


  • #20
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    vanderbadger wrote: »
    never noticed any difference in the ones i had to chars in terms of getting sick or anythng, they are probably a bit more lively at birth, mostly i found them quiet cattle, I had one bull weanling this year that got a nasty cut down in the joint of his foot, he was the quietest animal i ever had, you could lift his foot when he was in shed like a horse and he wouldnt move


    quiet but stubburn. I had a PB cow in with the rest for vaccinating and she refused point blank to go into the crush fro me. ended up putting a fist full of meal in front of her and injecting her in the pen. (21 gauge needles make life so much easier)

    ours are outwintered and no bother on them.


  • #21
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    johnpawl wrote: »
    I wonder would the likes of those heifers be a good buy to breed good blue calves?
    Or if you put pt back on them...

    i wondered that myself. i sold my bull to a chap who seemed fairly well up on breeding, an export weanlings man, he told me he didnt think they wouldnt be good enough to breed for high end weanlings right or wrong i dont know


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  • #22
    caseman
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    vanderbadger wrote: »
    i wondered that myself. i sold my bull to a chap who seemed fairly well up on breeding, an export weanlings man, he told me he didnt think they wouldnt be good enough to for high end weanlings right or wrong i dont know
    Thinking about running a parth bull with my limousin cows, 2nd 3rd generation bf back breeding.
    In the hope that it will bring enough power to produce quality export weanlings.
    Anybody any experience of this and results i could expect.
    I'll stick up a few pictures of the cows and see what ye think.


  • #23
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    vanderbadger wrote: »
    i wondered that myself. i sold my bull to a chap who seemed fairly well up on breeding, an export weanlings man, he told me he didnt think they wouldnt be good enough to breed for high end weanlings right or wrong i dont know

    Sorry, bit confused here, did he think they would be good enough to breed high end weanlings or not? Thanks, JP.


  • #24
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    johnpawl wrote: »
    Sorry, bit confused here, did he think they would be good enough to breed high end weanlings or not? Thanks, JP.

    not good enough he reckoned


  • #25
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    vanderbadger wrote: »
    not good enough he reckoned

    What was his plan for the calves off that bull?


  • #26
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    johnpawl wrote: »
    What was his plan for the calves off that bull?

    well he wasnt worried about the bull with his own cows but in his own words my cows werent good enough for the bull :o


  • #27
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    Haha, some statement!
    A man'd be curious to see his calves next year and see is there much difference or is he talking sh1te


  • #28
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    johnpawl wrote: »
    Haha, some statement!
    A man'd be curious to see his calves next year and see is there much difference or is he talking sh1te

    In fairness to him he knew his stuff , his cows were either blue x, or pt x lim or pure bred lim. Runs 120 cows or so and 4 to 5 bulls.


  • #29
    johnpawl
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    vanderbadger wrote: »
    In fairness to him he knew his stuff , his cows were either blue x, or pt x lim or pure bred lim. Runs 120 cows or so and 4 to 5 bulls.

    He's in the know so. you'd wonder how would the blue x cows get on calving PT.


  • #30
    vanderbadger
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    johnpawl wrote: »
    He's in the know so. you'd wonder how would the blue x cows get on calving PT.
    Well I though my chap was as easy calving as you could get but this man had looked up his figures and wouldn't run him with the blues or so he said


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  • #31
    bogman_bass
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    did he say all this before you agreed a price?


  • #32
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    bogman_bass wrote: »
    did he say all this before you agreed a price?
    i spend so long talking to him bogman im not sure what came first, i was happy enough with the price i got anyway and i think he was happy enough with the bull


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