Quick question today

munzab

Hi all. I have been asked in an application form if i have any convictions in ireland.

I am just wondering, i was caught speeding in July, and paid the fee then. I believe it was a fixed notice charge, and have 2 points on my licence.

is this a conviction?i think its not criminal, but the exact question asked is:

Have you committed any offences agains the laws of ireland or any overseas country? i am pretty sure i can answer no to this.


Do you have any convictions in the state, or any other country (including traffic offences) or any civil judgements made against you? thats what i am not sure.


it goes on to ask if yes to the the above:

Date of conviction or judgement

Place where conviction or judgement took place:

Outcome:




Where do i stand for penalty points for speeding and having paid the fee in due course? never been near any courts....


Thanks

I need to submit this tomorrow, and its been bugging me for a while as to what i should answer...

Reloc8

Fixed Penalty Notice is not a criminal conviction. You can't be convicted except by a Judge, which you weren't.

munzab

many thanks. so even having 2 points on the licence doesnt get into that territory. there is no civil convictions things entering in this are there? i have no clue in terms of what legally are the differences, but im really thankful for pointers on this...

Reloc8

No such thing as a civil conviction.

Speeding points are not convictions.

You're asked to specify criminal convictions.

On what you say, you have none.

Civil Judgments are orders in respect of money that you owe that havn't been satisfied.

I don't know if you have any of those but you will.

I hope not. You seem nice and pure.

Not like Smuggler's Cove over there in the other thread.

munzab

id say im pretty pure i hope anyway (the one above would certainly have the ledger confirming or rescinding that).

no, i dont have anything pending, even pay the damn tv licence!!

Thanks again for your help, eases a lot of stress

Peregrinus

I think you have a problem with question 1, though. Speeding is an offence and you have committed it.

Reloc8

No. The question was whether the OP had been convicted of a criminal offence, not whether they've committed it.

You can only be convicted by a Judge sitting in a court. The OP was not. They have no convictions.

Criminal convictions that is. They seem like a very moral person.

Not like that blood diamond crew in the next thread.

Peregrinus

Reloc8 wrote: »

No. The question was whether the OP had been convicted of a criminal offence, not whether they've committed it.

According to the OP, both questions are asked.

munzab wrote: »

. . . but the exact question asked is:

Have you committed any offences agains the laws of ireland or any overseas country? i am pretty sure i can answer no to this.

Do you have any convictions in the state, or any other country (including traffic offences) or any civil judgements made against you? thats what i am not sure.

The OP is "pretty sure" that he can answer "no" to the first question, but I'm not so sure that he can. By his own account, he has committed an offence against the laws of Ireland - namely, speeding.

Reloc8

Thats a fair point - I hadn't read properly.