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Is it copywright if you domain/company name is...

  • 25-11-2012 11:38am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭


    Is it copywright if I have a domain name/company name in Ireland that is the same one in a different country? Like what if my domain name/company name is the only one available in Ireland but taken in the US/UK?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    short answer no, you can see plenty of decisions from the IEDR against companies / people who have registered .ie domain names like google.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭upncmnhistori


    miju wrote: »
    short answer no, you can see plenty of decisions from the IEDR against companies / people who have registered .ie domain names like google.ie

    IEDR?? well thats good at least now I can go ahead with my business this week or so.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    IEDR?? well thats good at least now I can go ahead with my business this week or so.

    IEDR = http://www.iedr.ie IE Domain Registry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Is it copywright if I have a domain name/company name in Ireland that is the same one in a different country? Like what if my domain name/company name is the only one available in Ireland but taken in the US/UK?

    Depends. If we are talking of big international brand like Gucci/Levi etc then no, esp if your domain was in the same business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭mneylon


    Be careful

    If the existing competing domain is a trademarked term you could end up in a world of pain


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭upncmnhistori


    Blacknight wrote: »
    Be careful

    If the existing competing domain is a trademarked term you could end up in a world of pain

    I was thinking that alright. Basically the 'name' I like is 'ie' available but the '.com' isn't. The '.com' comapny is trademarked in the states though with logo which I found out recently. I wanted to be careful before I took an action on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    I was thinking that alright. Basically the 'name' I like is 'ie' available but the '.com' isn't. The '.com' comapny is trademarked in the states though with logo which I found out recently. I wanted to be careful before I took an action on it.
    Trademark issues can, as Blacknight above pointed out, be a bit of a minefield. If a large multinational operates in the Irish market, then it may well have an Irish trademark or a Community Trademark (CTM). Registering the .ie might be a problem. Facebook, Adidas and others took and won dispute proceedings against those who registered the .ie of their trademark. Also just having a registered business name confers no rights in trademark terms. It is a very complex field even for those in the legal profession and those dealing with the domain business.

    Regards...jmcc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    miju wrote: »
    short answer no, you can see plenty of decisions from the IEDR against companies / people who have registered .ie domain names like google.ie
    IEDR does not make decsions. These are disputes that have been decided under IEDR's dispute policy.
    Explanatory note:
    http://www.iedr.ie/?q=node/33

    The policy:
    http://www.iedr.ie/?q=node/34

    Some of the decisions have been to do with abject cybersquatting but some are more complex than that.

    Regards...jmcc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭mneylon


    A lot of companies won't register domains in every extension, but even if they don't have a registered trademark they'd stand a pretty good chance of winning a UDRP ..

    Of course it depends a lot on how "unique" the term is

    Skype, for example, is pretty unique but other, more "generic" terms would be harder to defend ..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    jmcc wrote: »
    IEDR does not make decsions. These are disputes that have been decided under IEDR's dispute policy.
    Explanatory note:
    http://www.iedr.ie/?q=node/33

    The policy:
    http://www.iedr.ie/?q=node/34

    Some of the decisions have been to do with abject cybersquatting but some are more complex than that.

    I'm aware of that but given the OP didnt know who the IEDR were I thought it best to keep it simple ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,902 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    My mate sold grabone.ie for 20k he saw them in New Zealand and had planned to use it in Ireland IEDR ruled that registering in one country does not give rights to our extensions.


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