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An inventory of destroyed Irish Records from the Irish Civil War 1922-1923

  • 24-11-2012 8:44pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭


    I know that the PRO office was shelled during the civil war but is there even an inventory of to what records are well gone or is there a few 'hidden gems' laying about? There must be an inventory around of what can't be got unless copies were got? I know things have been destroyed by order of the then minister for defence in 1932 and other aera's there has to be an inventory of what is not available or is this 'myth'?http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Irish-census.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    Why would that be a myth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭upncmnhistori


    A lot of records have been known to be burnt but some may have survived and unknown where to be is my guess. Tracing my own family roots I noticed that I could not get all my families records of births and death and yet familysearch.org puts up a lot of stuff on people's Irish families.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    Civil records of Births, Marriages & Deaths were not held in the PRO, so all these have survived.

    extract of an article by John Grenham :

    From a genealogical point of view, the most significant losses [during Destruction of the Public Record Office] were:

    the surviving 19th century census returns *
    about two-thirds of pre-1870 Church of Ireland parish registers *
    all of the surviving wills probated in Ireland.

    While the loss of the census returns in particular still casts a long shadow over Irish research, any records not in the PRO in 1922 have survived. These include non-Church of Ireland parish records, civil records of births, marriages and deaths, property records and later censuses. And for much of the material that was lost, there are abstracts, transcripts and fragments of the originals

    * i.e. those for 1821 to 1851.
    * note - some CofI parishes were able to keep their registers onsite, after showing they had suitable storage, and many parishes made copies of their registers - some sent their originals to the PRO, other's sent the copies.

    Records that survived (e.g. section of the early census returns) included those that were in the reading room when the PRO/Four Courts were occupied.


    S.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    A lot of records have been known to be burnt but some may have survived and unknown where to be is my guess. Tracing my own family roots I noticed that I could not get all my families records of births and death and yet familysearch.org puts up a lot of stuff on people's Irish families.

    They are putting a lot more resources into it though...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead#Genealogy_and_baptism


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,707 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I know that the PRO office was shelled during the civil war but is there even an inventory of to what records are well gone or is there a few 'hidden gems' laying about? There must be an inventory around of what can't be got unless copies were got? I know things have been destroyed by order of the then minister for defence in 1932 and other aera's there has to be an inventory of what is not available or is this 'myth'?http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Irish-census.html

    Getting yourself the most recent edition of John Grenham's book is really a good idea.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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