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Poetry

  • 24-11-2012 7:07pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,724 ✭✭✭


    How do you guys feel about poetry? I used to hate it for J.C(learned only one) but now it changed. I particularly like Mahon. When I saw a question about him come up on the christmas test I was elated, and had no problem to write 4 pages. I think it's largely due to the fact that we do not have to learn the poems off by heart. My teacher has a diffferent approach. He tries to interest us, not just plough on through the course. It worked for me anyway.

    Anyone else that genuinely likes it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭11Charlie11


    I much prefer poetry this year as well .. I like hot the questions are about a poet and I love the questions where you just have to write a personal response :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭ray2012


    I'm the complete opposite tbh. In 5th year we were pretty much forced to learn the poems of the poets we were studying.. The teacher would ask us all individually at the beginning of each class to say a few lines of a verse she picks, and if you didn't get it right she made a fair joke of yeah and you looked quite stupid :P So yeah, that's really where I get my hate for poetry.
    But, this year, she's laid off a bit with forcing it down us. We're only learning quotes that we feel we might use in our answers really.. I don't mind the section as much as last year. I enjoy doing Mahon, he's my favourite out of the lot. Hopkins/Shakespeare I cannot handle though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭CatEyed92


    2011 was a lovely year for poetry. Robert Frost, Eavan Boland, Emily Dickinson
    2010 for Eliot - we got to do him in 4th year and 5th year - he was amazing!

    This year is horrible IMO :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 TheFlayedMan


    I don't mind it. Our teacher is doing all eight to give us full choice, but we should be narrowing down to the five now.

    I'll probably go with Rich, Kinsella, Plath, Mahon and Willy Shaker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭ray2012


    I don't mind it. Our teacher is doing all eight to give us full choice, but we should be narrowing down to the five now.

    I'll probably go with Rich, Kinsella, Plath, Mahon and Willy Shaker.

    seriously? wow, that's crazy. I'd rather have 5 poets done in great detail than 8 done in less detail..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭CatEyed92


    Probably gonna go with the easily interpreted tbh

    Rich, Plath, Bishop, Kinsella, Mahon

    WTF is Hopkins on about :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 TheFlayedMan


    ray2012 wrote: »
    seriously? wow, that's crazy. I'd rather have 5 poets done in great detail than 8 done in less detail..

    No, we have great detail on each poet... extensive notes and at the end of each we do a questions that covers all possible ones that could come up. My English teacher is amazing, the best I have. If you are sure that you are not doing a poet (Hopkins and I) you do an exercise on one you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭Geo10


    I don't mind it. Our teacher is doing all eight to give us full choice, but we should be narrowing down to the five now.

    I'll probably go with Rich, Kinsella, Plath, Mahon and Willy Shaker.

    LOL! When I did the LC last year our class did 4 and most people narrowed it down to 2/1 (I'm not recommending this btw, it didn't work out for some people!) I only ever learned Rich and Plath, and Rich came up so I got my A1 :D A loot of English is about predictions unfortunately. Our class just did GVP in the comparative and that came up so we all did great (that said, my teacher did take a bit of a risk! :p )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 TheFlayedMan


    But... there are 4 choices so there is a possibility that you none of yours would come up.
    You mad!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,545 ✭✭✭Geo10


    But... there are 4 choices so there is a possibility that you none of yours would come up.
    You mad!

    My teacher's mad! :P I know some girl went into a huff that the teacher wouldn't do 5 with us and so went off studying one extra by herself but she didn't get an A1 and a good few of us others did! :pac: Quality over quantity! (We were lucky though... I don't recommend this!)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Geo10 wrote: »
    (We were lucky though... I don't recommend this!)
    Good! :p

    The only way of being absolutely 100% sure of getting a poet you have studied up is to do 5.

    By doing this, there's also a high probability that you will have a choice of at least two on the day, and can choose the one which you feel most comfortable with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭user.name


    Good luck to anyone studying Hopkins he bores me :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭11Charlie11


    user.name wrote: »
    Good luck to anyone studying Hopkins he bores me :P
    We are doing him now! I hate him !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Glowy


    user.name wrote: »
    Good luck to anyone studying Hopkins he bores me :P

    Our teacher has told us she won't be doing him because he's THAT boring :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Good! :p

    The only way of being absolutely 100% sure of getting a poet you have studied up is to do 5.

    By doing this, there's also a high probability that you will have a choice of at least two on the day, and can choose the one which you feel most comfortable with.

    Don't listen to him, he hasn't a clue what he's on. I learned quotes of one going in and she came up. Do one and do her well and you'll be sorted :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Don't listen to him, he hasn't a clue what he's on. I learned quotes of one going in and she came up. Do one and do her well and you'll be sorted :pac:
    What are you on, more like? :P

    Just because you lucked out as usual doesn't mean anyone else will!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭curly135


    Really like Plath and Wordsworth... then others like Bishop and Mahon are terrible, bore me out of my head... so it's kinda a mix.

    Wanted to do Hopkins after going over some of his poems in TY, but our English teacher for LC didn't wanna do him :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 24 MrCraigButler


    if anyone would like to trade poetry essays i have Mahon , Hopkins, Plath, Wordsworth essays done :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭JackTheGrinder


    if anyone would like to trade poetry essays i have Mahon , Hopkins, Plath, Wordsworth essays done :)
    If I could grab your Mahon and Plath essays Id be a very appreciative dude :)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭ImRebecca


    We've only done seamus Heaney so far :L I hate him he's so boring D;


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,158 ✭✭✭✭HugsiePie


    if anyone would like to trade poetry essays i have Mahon , Hopkins, Plath, Wordsworth essays done :)

    THAM ALL, PLEASE GIVE ME THEM ALL1 I HATE ALL THE ESSAYS I'VE DONE SO FAR AND THIS WILL SAVE 3 WEEKS OF SLAVING OVER THE BOOKS REWRITING THEM OVER CHRISTMAS! PPPPPLLLLLLEEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 ella.cole


    So far we did hopkins, plath and wordsworth. I hate wordsworth lol!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭kingcobra


    Glowy wrote: »

    Our teacher has told us she won't be doing him because he's THAT boring :pac:

    Am I the only person here who actually like Hopkins??? He's the first and only poet I have ever liked and I don't find him boring at all :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭JackTheGrinder


    lads, which poets would you say likely will NOT come up in 2013? Rich was up last year so would she make a reappearance two years running or is that irrelevant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭barney4001


    I read a lot of poetry monologues etc

    seen this today on face book well written i wonder could it be a true story
    Her hair was up in a ponytail
    Her favorite dress tied with a bow
    Today was Daddy's Day at school
    And she couldn't wait to go.
    But her mommy tried to tell her,
    That she probably should stay home.
    Why the kids might not understand,
    If she went to school alone.
    But she was not afraid;
    She knew just what to say.
    What to tell her classmates
    Of why he wasn't there today.
    But still her mother worried,
    For her to face this day alone.
    And that was why once again,
    She tried to keep her daughter home.
    But the little girl went to school,
    Eager to tell them all.
    About a dad she never sees,
    A dad who never calls.
    There were daddies along the wall in back,
    For everyone to meet
    Children squirming impatently,
    Anxious in their seats.
    One by one the teacher called,
    Each student from the class.
    To introduce their daddy,
    As seconds slowly passed.
    At last the teacher called her name,
    Every child turned to stare.
    Each of them was searching,
    For a man who wasn't there.
    "Where's her daddy at?"
    She heard a boy call out.
    "She probably doesn't have one"
    Another student dared to shout.
    And from somewhere near the back,
    She heard a daddy say,
    "Looks like another deadbeat dad,
    Too busy to waste his day."
    The words did not offened her,
    As she smiled up at her mom.
    And looked back at her teacher,
    Who told her to go on.
    And with hands behind her back,
    Slowly she began to speak.
    And out from the mouth of a child,
    Came words incredibly unique.
    "My daddy couldn't be here,
    Because he lives so far away.
    But I know he wishes he could be,
    Since this is such a special day.
    And though you cannot meet him,
    I wanted you to know.
    All about my daddy,
    And how much he loves me so.
    He loved to tell me stories
    He taught me to ride my bike.
    He surprised me with pink roses,
    And taught me to fly a kite.
    We used to share fudge sundaes,
    and ice cream in a cone.
    And though you cannot see him,
    I'm not standing here alone.
    Cause my daddy's always with me
    Even though we are apart.
    I know because he told me,
    He'll forever be in my heart."
    With that, her little hand reached up,
    and lay across her chest.
    Feeling her own heartbeat,
    Beneath her favorite dress.
    And from somewhere in the crowd of dads,
    Her mother stood in tears.
    Proudly watching her daughter,
    Who was wise beyond her years.
    For she stood up for the love
    Of a man not in her life.
    Doing what was best for her,
    Doing what was right.
    And when she dropped her hand back down,
    Staring straight into the crowd.
    She finished with a voice so soft,
    But its message clear and loud.
    "I love my daddy very much,
    He's my shining star.
    And if he could he'd be here,
    But heaven's just too far.
    You see he was a fireman
    And died just this past year.
    When airplanes hit the towers
    And taught Americans to fear.
    But sometimes when I close my eyes,
    It's like he never went away."
    And then she closes her eyes,
    And saw him there that day.
    And to her mother's amazement,
    She witnessed with surprise.
    A room full of daddies and children,
    All starting to close their eyes.
    Who knows what they say before them,
    Who knows what they felt inside.
    Perhaps for merely a second,
    They saw him at her side.
    "I know you're with me Daddy."
    To the silence she called out.
    And what happened next made believers,
    Of those once filled with doubt.
    Not one in that room could explain it,
    For each of their eyes had been closed.
    But there on the desk beside her,
    Was a fragrant long-stemmed pink rose.
    And a child was blessed, if only for a moment,
    By the love of her shining bright star.
    And given the gift of believing,
    That heaven is never too far
    - From the poem Daddy's Day, by Cheryl Costello-Forshey
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Moromaster


    I just learned Tintern Abby off, with a few specific quotes from A Slumber Did My Spirit Steal and Composed upon Westminster Bridge. Is that enough for Wordsworth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,158 ✭✭✭✭HugsiePie


    lads, which poets would you say likely will NOT come up in 2013? Rich was up last year so would she make a reappearance two years running or is that irrelevant?
    Plath and Mahon, far too predicted to come up, English department are trying to stop predictions, that being said I am studying both of them as 2 of my 5 poets. Personally I reckon Wordsworth is a definite, but I'm not going to include him in my 5 (well probably won't)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭ray2012


    I'd say Shakespeare or Hopkins will make an appearance. I doubt both of them, but only one. I think Mahon will be up, but the question won't be the usual ''distinctive style with people and places'' type, but instead one on how he portrays a ''life of darkness'' or something, similar to a one that came up in our mocks.

    I'm really hoping Shakespeare comes up, he's my best by far. If not Shakespeare, either Plath or Mahon. And if not any of those, I'll be left with Bishop, which I barely know tbh! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    I'm gonna learn Bishop, plath, Mahon and Shakespeare. Surely one will come up


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,158 ✭✭✭✭HugsiePie


    I'm gonna learn Bishop, plath, Mahon and Shakespeare. Surely one will come up
    For your own sake, learn a 5th, just to have yourself covered!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭ray2012


    We've 5 studied, to be sure we get one up. My teacher said we're doing another one cause we have a lot of time left and we have the course finished and most of it revised. We've Hopkins, Shakespeare, Plath, Bishop and Mahon studied, doing Rich after Easter I think. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,724 ✭✭✭mixery


    It would be inhumane of the departament to not include Plath or Mahon. I'm spending most of my time on these, and 2 others in little detail just in case.


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