2011 NI Census - what's the Catholic:Protestant breakdown?

Seanchai

Does anybody know when this breakdown of the population will be revealed? Did they have a 'nationalist', 'unionist' or 'other' option in the 2011 Census?
It's hard to find any information about it, just plenty of speculation in articles from 2011. Even this 2012 article references the Census figures from 2001.

Anybody have updated (2011) Census figures on the number of Catholics and Protestants in the North?

woodoo

It was due out in Nov 2012 but i think it won't be out till feb 2013 now.

pablomakaveli

Just because there may be a Catholic majority in NI now or soon does not mean that Ireland will be unified any time soon if at all.

ardmacha

Phase one of the second release from the 2011 NI Census will be published at 9:30am on 11 December 2012. I think this will have the information required.

Just because there may be a Catholic majority in NI now or soon does not mean that Ireland will be unified any time soon if at all.

Unification soon might be unlikely, but at all seems rather probable in this scenario.

woodoo

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Just because there may be a Catholic majority in NI now or soon does not mean that Ireland will be unified any time soon if at all.

I believe a catholic majority would treat a protestant minority much better than the other way around.

pablomakaveli

woodoo wrote: »

I believe a catholic majority would treat a protestant minority much better than the other way around.

That may be true but i dont think it will mean a beginning in pushing through unification of the Republic with the North.

Manach

Or the other scenario, the Southern Catholics seeking re-unification with our Northern Kin within the realm of the UK

Seanchai

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Just because there may be a Catholic majority in NI now or soon does not mean that Ireland will be unified any time soon if at all.

And we're off. And this has what to do with answering the question I asked?

dvpower

Seanchai wrote: »

And we're off. And this has what to do with answering the question I asked?

You asked if there was a 'nationalist' / 'unionist' breakdown. The question of unification naturally flows from your question.

Seanchai

dvpower wrote: »

You asked if there was a 'nationalist' / 'unionist' breakdown. The question of unification naturally flows from your question.

No, a simple 'yes' or 'no' would be the 'natural' answer to that straightforward question. He didn't answer it.

pablomakaveli

Seanchai wrote: »

And we're off. And this has what to do with answering the question I asked?

Its blatantly obvious that this is why you wanted to know.

Anytime the demographics of NI and the increase in the Catholic population is brought up on Boards its always in relation to unification.

Mike 1972

What about the rest of us ?

gurramok

Mike 1972 wrote: »

What about the rest of us ?

Well, blame the British establishment(and Irish as well) as well as the media for promoting the divisions in NI as religious based. They won't ask in the census if you're Nationalist\Unionist\other or even base the question on national identity but base it on your historic religious background.

gallag

As an atheist unionist I must be a minority now, even describing myself as a unionist doesn't seem right, I hate all paramilitary forces equally, don't like bands/parades and for some reason have more catholic friends than prod, though non of my friends go to chapel/church so I don't class them as religious anyway. All I know is I like being part of the u.k and don't believe in god. Identity crises lol what am I.

Fratton Fred

gallag wrote: »

As an atheist unionist I must be a minority now, even describing myself as a unionist doesn't seem right, I hate all paramilitary forces equally, don't like bands/parades and for some reason have more catholic friends than prod, though non of my friends go to chapel/church so I don't class them as religious anyway. All I know is I like being part of the u.k and don't believe in god. Identity crises lol what am I.

Normal?

bobafro

Why would anyone living in NI want to join this joke that we call a country?

It also saddens me that unification/non-unification is being debated as a religous question...
Person A - I don't believe that the woman called Mary was a virgin or that water and wine can be changed into the body and blood of our agreed savior
Person B - Then you shouldn't be part of our country and only when the majority of your area of this island believe the ridiculous stuff that we do as well as the ridiculous stuff that we both agree on will you be welcome.

Seanchai

bobafro wrote: »

Why would anyone living in NI want to join this joke that we call a country?

For starters, this obviously isn't a 'country', but rather only 83% of the country of Ireland. It's a state, one of two states in the country of Ireland. There's only one Ireland, no matter how many times foreigners partition our country.

Seanchai

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Its blatantly obvious that this is why you wanted to know.

Duh, obviously. Here's my question again, as you seem to have missed it: "2011 NI Census - what's the Catholic:Protestant breakdown?"

Now, if you don't know the answer - and evidently you don't - perhaps you should go off and set up your own thread with your own questions or answers, rather than invent questions and attribute them to other posters.

OMD

Seanchai wrote: »

For starters, this obviously isn't a 'country', but rather only 83% of the country of Ireland. It's a state, one of two states in the country of Ireland. There's only one Ireland, no matter how many times foreigners partition our country.

Yeah. Michael Collins. Bloody foreigner

Seanchai

OMD wrote: »

Yeah. Michael Collins. Bloody foreigner

Ireland was, as a matter of historical fact, partitioned by the British state's unilaterally declared Government of Ireland Act 1920. It had, obviously as a look at the date should indicate, nothing to do with Michael Collins.

Next.

NIMAN

woodoo wrote: »

I believe a catholic majority would treat a protestant minority much better than the other way around.

Surely we should all be equal, and it would not be about 'one side' treating 'the other' in a certain way?

woodoo

NIMAN wrote: »

Surely we should all be equal, and it would not be about 'one side' treating 'the other' in a certain way?

Yeah it should have been that way but it wasn't in the past.

Iwasfrozen

Seanchai wrote: »

For starters, this obviously isn't a 'country', but rather only 83% of the country of Ireland. It's a state, one of two states in the country of Ireland. There's only one Ireland, no matter how many times foreigners partition our country.

Is it now? That's news to me. What I do know is that the only time this country has ever been unified was under British dominion. So surely the very concept of an Irish state is in itself a foreign concept?

NIMAN

woodoo wrote: »

Yeah it should have been that way but it wasn't in the past.

I know, but the past is the past. The initial comment I quoted made it sound as if once the Nationalist become the majority it makes them the boss of the country.

Every citizen should be equal, irrelevant of who is 'the majority'.

swimming in a sea

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Is it now? That's news to me. What I do know is that the only time this country has ever been unified was under British dominion. So surely the very concept of an Irish state is in itself a foreign concept?

To true,

Ireland was just a land of chiefs/earls, and then a foreign chief/king came in and beat all the other chiefs/earls. Now suddenly all irish are equal and we need to beat the English, balls!!! when will working class people realize they are only been taken for a ride by next want to be overloard.

The people in Egypt are realizing this at the moment.

Scofflaw

Christ on a bicycle...this doesn't even qualify as trench warfare, it's kindergarten stuff.

OP, feel free to set up another thread asking the question. If I see a repeat of the trolling/derailment that happened here by the same people, those people will be banned. I'd ban and infract some of you this time round, but I find it impossible to take you seriously enough to bother.

moderately,
Scofflaw