How much are nursing homes?

ilovesleep

My mom was saying they are approximately 800 euro a week. That can't be right, surely? That's far too much.

MagicMarker

OMG your mom is like so right.

Soups123

ilovesleep wrote: »

My mom was saying they are approximately 800 euro a week. That can't be right, surely? That's far too much.

Shes just making it sound expensive to deter you from putting her in it.

FatherLen

she is only saying that so you don't put her in one.

EDIT: damn you soups

Mr Benevolent

ilovesleep wrote: »

My mom was saying they are approximately 800 euro a week. That can't be right, surely? That's far too much.

Planning your parents demise already, OP? That's a bit unfair.

BillyMitchel

Your old dear is correct my little friend. My old dear is a carer in one and that one is pushing the 1k a week some rooms are more.

Death and Taxes

ilovesleep wrote: »

My mom was saying they are approximately 800 euro a week. That can't be right, surely? That's far too much.

Its on the lower end of the scale i'd reckon, tbh

degausserxo

The one my grandmother was in was €1250 a week, and it wasn't particularly fancy.

kirving

They cost a fortune alright, better get saving OP.

deisedave

ilovesleep wrote: »

My mom was saying they are approximately 800 euro a week. That can't be right, surely? That's far too much.

More if you want one thats anyway good.

bbam

ilovesleep wrote: »

My mom was saying they are approximately 800 euro a week. That can't be right, surely? That's far too much.

Tell her no matter about the price, she's worth it...

Seriously though, €800 would be the run of them...


There is another scheme which we used and found very successful..
The Boarding Out Scheme..

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/health_services_for_older_people/boarding_out_of_older_people.html

Less than half the price of a nursing home, more friendly non institunal feel but still 24*7 care... Boarders need to be able to dress and feed themselves.

orchidsrpretty

ilovesleep wrote: »

My mom was saying they are approximately 800 euro a week. That can't be right, surely? That's far too much.[/Quote

That would at the lower end of the scale. Its usually not lower than 1000€ going up to about 1400€ per week.

syklops

ilovesleep wrote: »

My mom was saying they are approximately 800 euro a week. That can't be right, surely? That's far too much.

Sounds about right. In fact thats one of the cheaper ones. A good one is about 4-5k per month.

AnonoBoy

Cheaper to just stick her in the shed out back.

That way you can make her knit scarves and pay her way.

ilovesleep

I'm not pricing nursing home care for anyone. I just think that price and the sums mentioned here in this thread are scandalous. How is someone supposed to pay that kind of money? Maybe some of it comes out from a pension the oldie is getting and then the rest is up to any offspring they have.

davet82

ilovesleep wrote: »

I'm not pricing nursing home care for anyone. I just think that price and the sums mentioned here in this thread are scandalous. How is someone supposed to pay that kind of money? Maybe some of it comes out from a pension the oldie is getting and then the rest is up to any offspring they have.

sell the family home, thats how they screw ye

pickarooney

All the more reason to acquire a terminal heroin addiction in your 70s.

syklops

ilovesleep wrote: »

I'm not pricing nursing home care for anyone. I just think that price and the sums mentioned here in this thread are scandalous. How is someone supposed to pay that kind of money? Maybe some of it comes out from a pension the oldie is getting and then the rest is up to any offspring they have.

How many old people do you know that have a pension of 5k a month? I have a relative who is considering whether to sell her flat (not at a great time to be selling lets be honest) or spend her savings on it. Which begs another question, how long do you stay?

BillyMitchel

davet82 wrote: »

sell the family home, thats how they screw ye

100% with this. My ma says that's how most do it or they would spend their life savings on it. I'm sure lots of people struggle with it also.

Heraldoffreeent

syklops wrote: »

How many old people do you know that have a pension of 5k a month? I have a relative who is considering whether to sell her flat (not at a great time to be selling lets be honest) or spend her savings on it. Which begs another question, how long do you stay?

With the fair deal scheme 80% of the residents pension is paid to the nursing home and up to 5% of the estate for three yrs after, longer if the estate includes land or money or shares, the three years time limit applies only to the principle private residence of the patient.

bbam

syklops wrote: »

How many old people do you know that have a pension of 5k a month? I have a relative who is considering whether to sell her flat (not at a great time to be selling lets be honest) or spend her savings on it. Which begs another question, how long do you stay?

Under the subvention or fair deals scheme the government will assess your means and the first €11k isn't counted..
Whatever you can contribute is taken and then the remainder is covered. Your property may need to be sold to fund your stay, depending on who lives there.

When the patient is down the their last €11K the government will cover the cost...

This is of course providing you NEED to be there rather than choosing to be there...

I know a number of people who have been through this process and while cumbersome it does work... there are always relatives who feel agreived to see their inheritance sold to pay for someone's care...

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/health_services_for_older_people/nursing_homes_support_scheme_1.html

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/health_services_for_older_people/nursing_home_subvention.html

Plazaman

davet82 wrote: »

sell the family home, thats how they screw ye

Ah now Dave, it's called Fair Deal which in return for your house and most of your life savings, the HSE will put you in a room (probably with 3 or 4 other mentallers) and ignore you for most of the day whilst you get food slopped to you a couple of times a day.

If your Granny or Grandad are bound for a nursing home, tell them to shoot someone and opt for prison, they'll get treated much better there.

bbam

davet82 wrote: »

sell the family home, thats how they screw ye

How's that screwing you??
If you have means to pay for your care why shouldn't it be used??

mattjack

bbam wrote: »

Under the subvention or fair deals scheme the government will assess your means and the first €11k isn't counted..
Whatever you can contribute is taken and then the remainder is covered. Your property may need to be sold to fund your stay, depending on who lives there.

When the patient is down the their last €11K the government will cover the cost...

This is of course providing you NEED to be there rather than choosing to be there...

I know a number of people who have been through this process and while cumbersome it does work... there are always relatives who feel agreived to see their inheritance sold to pay for someone's care...

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/health_services_for_older_people/nursing_homes_support_scheme_1.html

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/health_services_for_older_people/nursing_home_subvention.html

My father is on the Fair Deal scheme, its a good scheme.

Sky King

I'll take care of her for €795 a week OP

davet82

bbam wrote: »

How's that screwing you??
If you have means to pay for your care why shouldn't it be used??

WHERES MY FCUKING INHERINTENCE GONE!! :mad:

crotalus667

ilovesleep wrote: »

My mom was saying they are approximately 800 euro a week. That can't be right, surely? That's far too much.

800 seems far too cheap , i work in a nursing home 1600 is more realistic depending on the care needed over 2000 can be common

Plazaman wrote: »

which in return for your house and most of your life savings, the HSE will put you in a room (probably with 3 or 4 other mentallers) and ignore you for most of the day whilst you get food slopped to you a couple of times a day..

most people get their own room unless they require high dependincy care, food is not slopped up , it is highly requlated

ElleEm

I know someone living in a nursing home and the deal is when she dies, the home will take a certain percentage from the sale of her house to cover her expenses while she lived in the home.

WoollyRedHat

ilovesleep wrote: »

My mom was saying they are approximately 800 euro a week. That can't be right, surely? That's far too much.

Welcome to the ****ty place called Ireland. Its criminal but the reality too You work all your life, then when you're past living it, it all goes to paying to mind you to your death

I don't know why there isn't some competition that isn't outright extortionate. Nursing Homes need huge reform.

TherapyBoy

Just spent 5 weeks in Beaumont hospital where my bed cost between €800 & €1250 a day. Nursing home sounds like a bargain for anyone who needs that level of care.

davet82

TherapyBoy wrote: »

Just spent 5 weeks in Beaumont hospital where my bed cost between €800 & €1250 a day. Nursing home sounds like a bargain for anyone who needs that level of care.

Yeah but the nurses rob your milk tray and lucazade :mad:

TherapyBoy

I can take the milk tray hit for some lovely nursing!

Run_to_da_hills

My ma was in one for 1200 a week, box room sized which also charged rental on a 24" CRT colour TV on top of this. Some owners are just greedy bas*ards.

Moved her out of there as soon as a vacancy came in another more down to earth place.

crotalus667

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

I don't know why there isn't some competition that isn't outright extortionate. Nursing Homes need huge reform.

It costs alot of money to run a nursing home , thats before you even take into account the building of it, most people are paid by the hse , at the min the way the tax is ste if you build a nursing home it will take 20 years before you are in profit and you will still need to pump money into it for the first few years

kylith

Look at it this way, OP: is it worth €800pw to not have to wipe your mum's arse?

Siuin

Jaysus, for that kind of money you could enroll them in college and stick them in campus accommodation

ScumLord

ilovesleep wrote: »

I'm not pricing nursing home care for anyone. I just think that price and the sums mentioned here in this thread are scandalous.

Is it? Your not just paying for a bed, your paying for care and food on top of your accommodation. Old people require a lot of care, I was in hospital recently and the majority of people in the yard where old people that didn't want to leave. But my care was up on €800 and I think all things considered it was a fair price.

Scruffles

speaking from an england perspective but registered care homes including nursing for the elderly are a lot cheaper than for registered residential homes for learning disability/autism,however they dont give enough support in many elderly homes,it isnt nice to see older people neglected because they dont have the relatives advocating for them.

from memory the residential centre am living in now costs over one thousand pound per week, the government decides how much each of us contribute to it with people from some boroughs [mine is one] contributing a lot more,and we are not allowed to claim DLA care despite the fact it does not cover half of our needs; am only on HRM and the basic income support which all ends up going on disability needs.

GRMA

A grand a week for a decent one.

Kristopherus

The vast,vast majority of patients in private nursing homes are subsidised by the State. Take a simple case of a pensioner with no assets going into a nursing home. They will be required to pay 80% of their income towards the cost of their care. The State (us) picks up the tab for the remainder.

Simple calculation: Pensioner on Non-Con max pension of €220.00. 80% of that is €176.00. N.H costs €800.00 per week. Client pays €176.00. State pays €624.00.

Its a great little country, is'nt it?;)