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Selling stock on Done Deal.

  • 19-11-2012 11:15am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭


    Having used D/D a couple of times to trade various stuff I find it a great service. But when it comes to livestock I feel it should be mandatory to include things like test and movement details, dealer/farmer. Might make things a bit easier for inexperienced farmers and a bit harder for the cowboys.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Jack C wrote: »
    Having used D/D a couple of times to trade various stuff I find it a great service. But when it comes to livestock I feel it should be mandatory to include things like test and movement details, dealer/farmer. Might make things a bit easier for inexperienced farmers and a bit harder for the cowboys.

    In my experience as a seller it's a pain in the ar5e. Lads not showing up, lads with no money etc. etc. If I was doing it again I would limit the viewing to one weekend, let ppl make sealed bids/offers and 7 days after ad goes up announce who gets them.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    blue5000 wrote: »
    In my experience as a seller it's a pain in the ar5e. Lads not showing up, lads with no money etc. etc. If I was doing it again I would limit the viewing to one weekend, let ppl make sealed bids/offers and 7 days after ad goes up announce who gets them.
    A bit over the top i reckon.
    Bought some cattle of dd and pleased with most. I dont know whether its cash to avoid in end of year returns that they sell on dd or why lads dont bring ordinary cattle directly to the mart.
    There are always chancers out there who will overprice their animals, but realistically you need to know how to judge weights and value if your buying this way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    1chippy wrote: »
    A bit over the top i reckon.
    Bought some cattle of dd and pleased with most. I dont know whether its cash to avoid in end of year returns that they sell on dd or why lads dont bring ordinary cattle directly to the mart.
    There are always chancers out there who will overprice their animals, but realistically you need to know how to judge weights and value if your buying this way.

    We sell some stock through DD and to be honest its for convenience..
    Our local mart is a Thursday so it would mean taking a day of work..
    It also opens up a wider market for planer stock.

    On DD, I can set a viewing/collection time that suits me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭razor8


    I find it great for selling too, I farm part-time and sometimes find its a part-time farmer who purchases also. I find it hard to get away to the marts
    I never had a problem or issue with payment yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    blue5000 wrote: »
    In my experience as a seller it's a pain in the ar5e. Lads not showing up, lads with no money etc. etc. If I was doing it again I would limit the viewing to one weekend, let ppl make sealed bids/offers and 7 days after ad goes up announce who gets them.


    This goes both ways very hard to judge weight off a photo went to see some lots and weight was well below add. Only fools are triping around the country wasting time as diesel is no longer cheap ( and I have not got a jeep).

    I have gone on wasted journeys buying, lot of fellas want the top prices paid at the mart for cattle 50 kgs heavier. Also some sellers want both there own fees and yours.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    razor8 wrote: »
    I find it great for selling too, I farm part-time and sometimes find its a part-time farmer who purchases also. I find it hard to get away to the marts
    I never had a problem or issue with payment yet


    I have been using DD for the past few years now and find it great for both buying and selling.

    Working full time with a decent commute so it's almost impossible for me to make Marts.

    Key to it is to be a good judge of weights, quality, etc.

    thankfully, for the most part farmers are decent and reliable and I have never had an issue dealing with anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 956


    there is lots of scary stories out there about selling stock on done deal from dodgie monie to fake bankers draafts to false nos provided for movement certs. if i was selling stock on done deal only payement i would allow would bee creedit transfer to my bank account. just my two pence worth, just be carefull with the money side of it lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭royalmeath


    956 wrote: »
    there is lots of scary stories out there about selling stock on done deal from dodgie monie to fake bankers draafts to false nos provided for movement certs. if i was selling stock on done deal only payement i would allow would bee creedit transfer to my bank account. just my two pence worth, just be carefull with the money side of it lads.

    Surely with regards Movement permits when your selling you ask the buyer for his herd details and do it on agfood before he leaves the yard. That way there can be no dodgy herd numbers and the buyers name will appear on the movement permit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    royalmeath wrote: »
    Surely with regards Movement permits when your selling you ask the buyer for his herd details and do it on agfood before he leaves the yard. That way there can be no dodgy herd numbers and the buyers name will appear on the movement permit.
    whats the advantage to them giving a dodgy herd no.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    956 wrote: »
    there is lots of scary stories out there about selling stock

    and most are told after a few pints and small ones chasing. is there really that many guys with cattle swindled out of money. Remember talking to a merchant I deal with and asking him about bad debts, he said the amount he would be out over his lifetime would be peanuts and he said that farmers were outstanding to pay, maybe not always on time but when they have it. I was a bit surprised by this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    and most are told after a few pints and small ones chasing. is there really that many guys with cattle swindled out of money. Remember talking to a merchant I deal with and asking him about bad debts, he said the amount he would be out over his lifetime would be peanuts and he said that farmers were outstanding to pay, maybe not always on time but when they have it. I was a bit surprised by this.

    Plenty of stories around here from silage contractors who are owed a good bit of money. But its usually the same guys who went around on several different contractors. Would definitely agree, the majority of farmers are very good to pay. You only have to read on here when the SFP comes in - everyone's talking about clearing bills as a priority. Farming is very face to face and farmers talk - if one owes money, it doesn't be long until a good few people know about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    I HAVE to say i bought and sold on done deal and paid with and received payment by cheque and have had no problems

    i think we all know a chancer/spoofer when we see one (prob get fcuked over now the next time):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,586 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/14-british-fr-weanlin-bulls/13112598

    I think the quality is gone out of the British Friesian. Or else he should be done over trade description act.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    I'd say one or two even have slight Je in them. Pic 3 anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    There not British Friesan. But there not terrible either .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭djmc


    It can be hard to do bucket fed calves if everything is not right not enough milk ration or quality grass and they could end up looking worse than the ones in the pictures.
    If they survive the winter they usually thrive in their second year with proper dosing and grass.


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