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Taste of different breeds

  • 18-11-2012 10:57pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭


    Not sure if this is suited to a farming forum or would butchers be more experts.

    But I always wondered if different breeds of cattle tasted differently.

    Often you see "Angus Beef" advertised as if Angus is the best meat. I think I only ever saw "Limousine Beef" advertised once and that was outsde Ireland.

    Is there actually a difference in the taste of different breeds?Is there a difference in the quality of meat? Why are companies so eager to advertise that it is Angus meat?

    To me, I think Limousine & Charlois breeds are usally far more impressive than Angus when I look at the animal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    Different breeds produce different styles of meat alright. The angus and herefords tend to produce a more marbled steak.

    marbling is the presence of small veins of fat through the muscle, and much and all as the healthy eating people would hate to admit it, fat tastes good.

    It also really helps keep the meat moist while it's cooking.


    A limo or charolais is a far more impressive beast, but wouldnt have the same marbling. I'd love to see a sample of the same cut of beef from the various breeds for comparison. I often wonder what belgian blues must be like given they're so muscled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭ZETOR_IS_BETTER


    ^^^^^^^^

    Crikey, John is making sure he is getting his point across anyway :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    arse. twas acting the bollox, I'd actually given up trying to post, didnt realise that not only had it gotten through, but it had done so lots of times.




    EDIT: That's better.... it let me delete the four extra posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭ZETOR_IS_BETTER


    JohnBoy wrote: »
    arse. twas acting the bollox, I'd actually given up trying to post, didnt realise that not only had it gotten through, but it had done so lots of times.




    EDIT: That's better.... it let me delete the four extra posts.

    They were excellant points though :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭8k2q1gfcz9s5d4


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00k9bms

    If you can try and get that on youtube it will answer a lot of the OPs questions. I seen it last aug and it really opened my eyes a lot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭ravima


    I saw a Charolais joint longside a Freisan joint once in my butchers. There was no fat at all on the Charolais one. Friesan one was fatty.

    Personally, I buy Angus meat, but that's cos I like Angus. Aldi ro Irish Angus meat and I note that Lidl are doing Hereford. I haven't tried the Hereford, but the Angus one is lovely.

    Tesco also do AA . I understand that Tesco pay an extra 5c lb to farmer for the meat.

    AA finish cheaper than the continentals, but the continentals will weigh more so give the farmer a bigger cheque. Whether its a bigger profit is open to discussion!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭himwdah


    does it not depend on what they are fed, as much as the breed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭dar31


    if you are ever in paris there is a group of restruants that do steaks from 7 differant breeds of cattle
    blonds
    charlois
    limo
    aubrac
    salers

    http://www.hippopotamus.fr/index.php?c=hippoetviande
    someone who understands frech can work it out, google translate wont work on page


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Manoffeeling


    A neighbour of mine put a bbx on the freezer. They all got lock jaw!! Like eating lino they said!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭dzer2


    There was a comparision test done on ear to the ground years ago 4 different breeds were bred and slaughtered and cooked and tested by about 100 people. Angus won on that day I think


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭DMAXMAN


    A neighbour of mine put a bbx on the freezer. They all got lock jaw!! Like eating lino they said!
    have eaten bbx beef from a friends herd and cant say there was any problem with it , it was actually lovely. was very lean and would not want to be overcooked imo. it was from a 20 month old heifer that had got ad-lib meal for two months pre slaughter. also was hung for 3 weeks before cutting up carcase


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,838 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    A few years ago I heard results from BBC radio 4 good food competition , anyhow they had a beef taste test and winners were geurnsey Charolais cross ...
    Best steaks I've ever had here were dexter sirloins ( and they'd been frozen)

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    Markcheese wrote: »
    they had a beef taste test and winners were geurnsey Charolais cross ...

    Jerseys too are supposed to give a great tasting cross. the challenge is to get them to produce the meat, but supposedly what little they produce is top stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    but the fat with jerseys tends to be yellow instead of white which can put people off.
    Not that that means anything about the flavour...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Dont be daft


    Hereford prime killed in AIBP Nenagh won a best steak in the World competition last year so I'd rate herefords very high up on the taste scale.

    When you see the Hereford Prime Scheme/Angus Premium in place thats a fairly good indication. You can spot a hereford steak no bother when raw, the marbling is unreal.

    As for what its fed, I'm nearly 100% sure Teagasc or maybe Bord Bia did taste tests with beef that was raised on a grass only diet and beef that was raised on a combination of grass and concentrates.
    Apparently none of the testers could tell the difference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭InchicoreDude


    Thanks for the replies. Interesting stuff.

    And wow, this farming forum has gotten really popular since I was here before!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    Dexter or Irish Moiled have been the best I've tasted so far. Yet I may have eaten Hereford and not known it.
    Does growth rate not have something to do with it? The slower growing or hardier animal has different fat layers so it creates the marbling? Or maybe I'm gone daft :P


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