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  • 18-11-2012 10:30pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 8,965 ✭✭✭


    There is a survey here run by the Catholic church. From what I can gather the survery is open to non believers as well.

    I filled it out and I am leaving the link here for any other X - Catholics.

    https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/PRAFDevangelisation


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    Thank you. I thoroughly enjoyed that! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Question 15 confused me slightly: Please explain in your own words what you believe is the Good News. I was not sure what they were looking for. I put this:

    The good news would be hearing that the catholic church was finally consigned to the rubbish heap. The good news would be no longer having to read disgusting stories about the wrongs committed by the members of that despicable organisation. The good news would be that no more would we have to listen to the evil leader of that despicable organisation spout his hate speech about those amongst us that he does not approve of.

    Do you think that is what they were looking for?

    MrP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    I loved that, I left them a complete mind melt!


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    MrPudding wrote: »
    Question 15 confused me slightly: Please explain in your own words what you believe is the Good News. I was not sure what they were looking for. I put this:

    The good news would be hearing that the catholic church was finally consigned to the rubbish heap. The good news would be no longer having to read disgusting stories about the wrongs committed by the members of that despicable organisation. The good news would be that no more would we have to listen to the evil leader of that despicable organisation spout his hate speech about those amongst us that he does not approve of.

    Do you think that is what they were looking for?

    MrP
    Hmm..
    It seems I did this a little too innocently.

    For that I put.
    "Something positive that occurs to the benefit of humans.":)

    For the last question about most effective way to share the Gospel I put.
    "That's a tough one. Inevitably you have your beliefs but they might not always be popular. If you want to effectively share the beliefs then popularising your views by agreeing with the masses would be the way to go. Unfortunately that means losing some of the conservative values that probably define you."


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,965 ✭✭✭Tim Robbins


    MrPudding wrote: »
    Question 15 confused me slightly: Please explain in your own words what you believe is the Good News. I was not sure what they were looking for. I put this:

    The good news would be hearing that the catholic church was finally consigned to the rubbish heap. The good news would be no longer having to read disgusting stories about the wrongs committed by the members of that despicable organisation. The good news would be that no more would we have to listen to the evil leader of that despicable organisation spout his hate speech about those amongst us that he does not approve of.

    Do you think that is what they were looking for?

    MrP
    Yeah I liked that one.

    I said the good news was when non religious people were given the same rights as religious people. But the good thing about all this is that they will get answers from intelligent people who might give them a thing or two to think about.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    I'm not sure if that is what they were looking for Mr P.

    I gave a one word reply to that one; "Nonsense".

    I liked the question where there was a range of issues that may potentially put people off Catholicism. They wanted you to choose three. I ticked them all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    Jernal wrote: »
    For the last question about most effective way to share the Gospel I put.
    "That's a tough one. Inevitably you have your beliefs but they might not always be popular. If you want to effectively share the beliefs then popularising your views by agreeing with the masses would be the way to go. Unfortunately that means losing some of the conservative values that probably define you."
    You put way more effort into that one than I did, I just said that it can't be shared effectively.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭swampgas


    There is a survey here run by the Catholic church. From what I can gather the survery is open to non believers as well.

    I filled it out and I am leaving the link here for any other X - Catholics.

    https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/PRAFDevangelisation

    Done, thanks for the link.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,965 ✭✭✭Tim Robbins


    Kiwi in IE wrote: »
    I liked the question where there was a range of issues that may potentially put people off Catholicism. They wanted you to choose three. I ticked them all.
    ha ha.

    And you know the thing is, they will have to read these.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    I was tempted to tell porkies about the religious orientation of my family. I am sure my replies would be more effective if I had originally been raised in a religious home. They will now attribute my attitude to religion to the perils of a secular upbringing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Good News:
    "The inevitable doom of the Catholic Church".


    That was a fun survey.


  • Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭Zirconia
    Boycott Israeli Goods & Services


    For the last one I said: "I appreciate your good intentions, but please do not bother me or my family with your supernatural belief, as I find this offensive".


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 26,928 Mod ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    The Good News? The Irish rugby team's injury crisis easing in time for the Six Nations, that'd be bloody good!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    To be fair whoever wrote that survey clearly has insight on some level into what makes Catholicism offensive and ridiculous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭Fortyniner


    My response to question 27:

    If the Catholic Church were to invest its wealth and resources into helping one single country out of poverty, if it listened to what people say, if it sought kindness for minorities, if it dispensed with the belief in miracles, the collection of wealth, the trappings of ceremony and dress, the seduction of heaven and the terror of hell, then maybe, just maybe, I'd be interested in their news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    27. What do you want to say to Church leaders about how the Good News of the Christian Gospel can be shared most effectively with people like you today?

    Answered. Leave me alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭tallaghtmick


    I wrote Jesus was an alien:pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,247 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Completed. As I did when I saw it pop up on the xianity forum.

    Vote early and often. :D

    May spam complete it again tomorrow...


  • Registered Users Posts: 904 ✭✭✭MetalDog


    Q26. What would help you/does help you to talk with others about your belief/non-belief?

    "I have no problems with expressing myself as I learned to think for myself years ago without being trapped by fear, superstition and ignorance." :cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,336 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    MrPudding wrote: »
    Question 15 confused me slightly: Please explain in your own words what you believe is the Good News. I was not sure what they were looking for. I put this:

    The good news would be hearing that the catholic church was finally consigned to the rubbish heap. The good news would be no longer having to read disgusting stories about the wrongs committed by the members of that despicable organisation. The good news would be that no more would we have to listen to the evil leader of that despicable organisation spout his hate speech about those amongst us that he does not approve of.

    Do you think that is what they were looking for?

    MrP

    Good answer. Although I took the survey pretty seriously (including adding a note at the end about how I do think marriage can be important but how it isn't exclusive to Catholicism and existed before Catholicism, so in the Catholicism sense I marked it as being not important), for the question about the Good News, I just went with "She's not pregnant!"


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Penn wrote: »
    Good answer. Although I took the survey pretty seriously (including adding a note at the end about how I do think marriage can be important but how it isn't exclusive to Catholicism and existed before Catholicism, so in the Catholicism sense I marked it as being not important), for the question about the Good News, I just went with "She's not pregnant!"

    I took it very seriously.

    MrP


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,336 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    MrPudding wrote: »
    I took it very seriously.

    MrP

    I just couldn't resist on that question. "The Good News" is such an ambiguous, arbitrary term that hopefully by responding in the manner I did, it could highlight for them that "Good News" could mean anything to anybody, and that "Good" is incredibly subjective because the coming of Jesus Christ would not be "Good News" to people who do not follow Jesus Christ. If anything, it would be "Bad News" because it would mean we were all condemned to an eternity in Hell, and that it also isn't really "News" as the premise has been established for almost 2,000 years and no indication of what will happen, when it will happen, if it will happen, or why it might happen has been given due to the vagueness of the source material.

    Plus it's funny.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,453 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shenshen


    I took that "Good News" bit a little too seriously maybe, I wrote the first things coming into my mind :

    "Obama re-elected, abortion probably about to be partially legalised in Ireland, gender equality making progress..."


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    You are such children.

    Here's what I wrote for the 'Good News' question.

    Christianity is the result of the mixing of Jewish mythology, Greek philosophy and 1st century mysticism. It began a process of codification in the 2nd century but remained a relatively small and unknown sect until the decline of the Roman Empire, when it quickly became popular with an increasingly alientated population. This culminated in Constantine becoming the first Christian Emperor of Rome, which ensured the spread of Christianity throughout the Roman Empire and its successors. Jesus of Nazareth himself most likely never existed. This is very good news!

    Fight the power, etc. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Oh hey, you can take it multiple times.

    Whoops...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    At this point there's a just lot of poll-wrecking going on.

    The submissions of those who replied earnestly are probably going to be ditched along with all the other heathens who filled it in once, twice, more, just to have a rant.

    Possibly. I don't know. Just saying. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    But that would be bad statistics. For a statistician, that's worse than anything the church could imagine...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,965 ✭✭✭Tim Robbins


    Probably unfair people filling it out twice.

    It is better if people just give honest answers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,247 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Probably unfair people filling it out twice.

    It is better if people just give honest answers.
    Unfair in the same way as being counted as catholic is? Even though I'm not?


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    endacl wrote: »
    Unfair in the same way as being counted as catholic is? Even though I'm not?

    I'd rather the CC get feedback full of "the reason you are in decline are these:

    Do these to stay relevant:

    I don't trust you because of these:"

    Or something similar other than

    "Hurr durr, god is stoopid, hurr durr"

    Which one is actually going to benefit the world?


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