Iceland Media Blackout

JCabot

So Guys Iceland has sacked its goverment and forces debt. forgiveness and the people write there own new constitution.

Conspiracy theory or what ?

MarkR

I haven't heard about this, perhaps due to a media blackout? Could you summarise the theory?

JCabot

MarkR wrote: »

I haven't heard about this, perhaps due to a media blackout? Could you summarise the theory?

Media Blackout Exactly !!!! Apparently it has happened but did we hear anything about it in our national news services, considering how close Iceland is to us and how similar the situtation is here.

If you search online with specifics you will find information I dont have a single good source but again maybe because of the blackout. I even mentioned this online on independent.ie in response to something recently and guess what it was not published.

Is it because they think it might give the rest of us in europe with massive debt ideas.

MarkR

If you can't find out anything credible about it, why do you think it's happened? There's over 300,000 people there. You think they all pinky swore not to tell anyone? They have phones, they have internet. If something that big had happened, we'd either have heard about it, or wondering why no one in iceland is picking up the phone.

Corkfeen

The Icelandic government was replaced as a result of government resignation back in 2009. But this did appear in the mainstream media and it's appears to be a popular myth that it never cropped up in the press.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7851415.stm

It's not as if they resigned yesterday,this is very old news. Tons of mainstream outlets have info on the new constitution which they're writing up. Just one example.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=iceland-crowdsources-its-constituti-12-11-15

The conspiracy is sort of lost on me.

JCabot

Corkfeen wrote: »

The Icelandic government was replaced as a result of government resignation back in 2009. But this did appear in the mainstream media and it's appears to be a popular myth that it never cropped up in the press.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7851415.stm

It's not as if they resigned yesterday,this is very old news. Tons of mainstream outlets have info on the new constitution which they're writing up. Just one example.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=iceland-crowdsources-its-constituti-12-11-15

The conspiracy is sort of lost on me.

Tons of mainstream media? I never heard of scientific american and what about RTE did you dig anything up on that service.

Or what about "Iceland forgives mortgage debt of its population" this information is out there but not on our mainstream media and what exactly not?

Corkfeen

JCabot wrote: »

Tons of mainstream media? I never heard of scientific american and what about RTE did you dig anything up on that service.

Or what about "Iceland forgives mortgage debt of its population" this information is out there but not on our mainstream media and what exactly not?

I wouldn't say the icelandics would be up to date on the vast majority of Ireland's economic woes either. It's awkward searching through the old material but here's the Irish Times running the collapse of their government. Can't find rte's but i'm assuming they ran it in some guise.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0126/breaking53.html

Scientific American is a well known publication. The AP are running a story on it which many publications will just rerun.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iUEQYxprBbzlBXLZnrX4i1OxEbGA?docId=CNG.016a2095a4c5c29dfc090a25dc338270.251

Debt forgiveness is detailed in plenty of Irish newspapers but it's not realistic tbh. This is a little known publication called The Irish Independent running it.

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/brendan-keenan/brendan-keenan-aping-evolution-of-icelands-debt-relief-3081143.html
Rte mention it a fair bit in this article too:
http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0410/imf-says-targeted-debt-reduction-policies-can-work.html

So we can conclude, this information is freely available...... You are merely claiming that none of them were run in the Irish press to fulfill your own agenda. It's difficult not to find articles relating to the topics that you've mentioned, you'd actually have to try.

asherbassad

MarkR wrote: »

If you can't find out anything credible about it, why do you think it's happened? There's over 300,000 people there. You think they all pinky swore not to tell anyone? They have phones, they have internet. If something that big had happened, we'd either have heard about it, or wondering why no one in iceland is picking up the phone.

Maybe a sizeable portion of the 300,000 don't know either....and of those who do, maybe they only speak Icelandic.

Did that ever occur to you?
Unless you expect people all over the world to send Morse from their phones when something happens.

Corkfeen

asherbassad wrote: »

Maybe a sizeable portion of the 300,000 don't know either....and of those who do, maybe they only speak Icelandic.

Did that ever occur to you?
Unless you expect people all over the world to send Morse from their phones when something happens.

Erm..... The OP is referring to resignations and collapse of a government that occurred nearly four years ago..... English is widely understood in Iceland, you'd be hard pushed to find one that doesn't speak it.

JCabot

MarkR wrote: »

I haven't heard about this, perhaps due to a media blackout? Could you summarise the theory?

MarkR obviously hadn't heard about it.

Corkfeen wrote: »

Debt forgiveness is detailed in plenty of Irish newspapers but it's not realistic tbh. This is a little known publication called The Irish Independent running it.

So we can conclude, this information is freely available...... You are merely claiming that none of them were run in the Irish press to fulfill your own agenda. It's difficult not to find articles relating to the topics that you've mentioned, you'd actually have to try.

You searched the archives and found it mentioned and are trying to be smug with "This is a little known publication called The Irish Independent" published it.

So you conculsion is there are no conspiracies with regard to Iceland but I have an agenda which could be called a conspiracy lol

MarkR

JCabot wrote: »

MarkR obviously hadn't heard about it.



You searched the archives and found it mentioned and are trying to be smug with "This is a little known publication called The Irish Independent" published it.

So you conculsion is there are no conspiracies with regard to Iceland but I have an agenda which could be called a conspiracy lol

I thought we were talking about current events. Their change in government was three years ago.

Corkfeen

JCabot wrote: »

MarkR obviously hadn't heard about it.



You searched the archives and found it mentioned and are trying to be smug with "This is a little known publication called The Irish Independent" published it.

So you conculsion is there are no conspiracies with regard to Iceland but I have an agenda which could be called a conspiracy lol

It happened nearly 4 years ago, do you expect it to be run in the news every day of the week? You have claimed there was a media blackout when there clearly wasn't. I'd practically forgotten about it up until this point because as news goes, it's old. The way you opened the discussion was as if the Icelandic government was collapsing right now........ If there was a media blackout, you'd assume that I wouldn't be able to find any stories from the period on it.

MarkR

In other news, dinosaurs seem to have become extinct. Next up, fire. The next big thing.

Monty Burnz

JCabot wrote: »

Is it because they think it might give the rest of us in europe with massive debt ideas.

You would think they had got a free pass in Iceland or something. Their currency has collapsed and their spending power has more-or-less halved. Things are pretty cushy here by comparison, bad and all as they are for some.

Monty Burnz

JCabot wrote: »

Tons of mainstream media? I never heard of scientific american and what about RTE did you dig anything up on that service.

Along with New Scientist, it's the biggest popular science publication on the planet.

JCabot

Monty Burnz wrote: »

You would think they had got a free pass in Iceland or something. Their currency has collapsed and their spending power has more-or-less halved. Things are pretty cushy here by comparison, bad and all as they are for some.

Like in Ireland the debt was not the peoples debt but the bankers debt. Iceland's economy is now growing faster than most countries in Europe. with low unemployment.

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Along with New Scientist, it's the biggest popular science publication on the planet.

Come on an american science mag. is not exactly the ideal place to report the financial crises in Iceland.

JustinDee

JCabot wrote: »

Like in Ireland the debt was not the peoples debt but the bankers debt. Iceland's economy is now growing faster than most countries in Europe. with low unemployment

Nothing to say about the billions of dollars of other countries' money it has lost down the u-bend?
GDP remaining strangled indicates a poorer standard of living. Within an economy of this kind, inflation rates cannot remain low for much longer, and a very likely result is consumers turning to importation of goods bar the necessities basket.
Great stuff for the short term, I suppose but in such a small economy with such a low population, short term positivity as this, is it really anything but a form of relief before the real hard yakka actually starts?

Monty Burnz

JCabot wrote: »

Come on an american science mag. is not exactly the ideal place to report the financial crises in Iceland.

I doubt it was the only place it was reported...in fact this just shows how widely it was reported. Indeed, that fact that you seem to have only heard about this recently makes me wonder if you were following the news at all between 2008-2010.

Corkfeen

JCabot wrote: »

Come on an american science mag. is not exactly the ideal place to report the financial crises in Iceland.

Type in 'Iceland constitution' into google news..... If there are no mainstream news outlets reporting upon it, come back to me. :pac:

macleod76

Iceland hasn't been getting that much air time for the enormity of what has and is happening there tbh

Maybe its because someone thinks it might give us ideas.

Icelanders have voted in favor of proposals for a new constitution last week after a referendum on what has been dubbed the world’s first “crowd-sourced constitution”.

Jonny7

macleod76 wrote: »

Iceland hasn't been getting that much air time for the enormity of what has and is happening there tbh

Maybe its because someone thinks it might give us ideas.

news.google.ie

"Iceland economy" - 23,000 hits.

The consolidated controllers of the world's news media(tm) aren't doing a very good job.

Monty Burnz

Jonny7 wrote: »

news.google.ie

"Iceland economy" - 23,000 hits.

The consolidated controllers of the world's news media(tm) aren't doing a very good job.

It's actually ironic how some folks must spend all their 'world news' research time reading about false flag attacks on the Olympics and martial law in the USA, and neglect to read anything about the real world. Then they turn around a few years later and claim that the stuff you read about 4 years ago was never even reported, and that's a conspiracy too...

(by the way, who doesn't remember the joke that was doing the rounds back in 2008 or so - "What's the difference between Ireland and Iceland? One letter and six months...")